Before I Upgrade ....

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I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?

(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.

Thanks in advance

NO ONE AS YET? I gussed I would have received instant answers to very basic questions becaise I had just bought Ameo!

Originally Posted by mmbika

I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?

(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.

Thanks in advance

Its been a while since I did mine but will try and advise on what I can remember

1.SIM unlocking is for using other networks operators and sometimes confused with CID unlocking, I think. If your using a vodaphone sim then it is def sim unlocked but in order to get it to a safe point for upgrading ideally you need to install hardspl and cid unlock I think. There are many guides on here but you will have to search and read I'm afraid as most of us did this a while ago.
2/3.Each of the windows builds 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 bring different things and increased functionality, 6.0 and 6.1 are worthwhile upgrades as they are both official releases, you may struggle to find a stock 6.1 for the ameo though. Again its been a long time since I used 6.1 on any of my devices, 6.5 is ok as long as you realise that its still in MS beta so you may find stuff that doesnt work or isnt perfect but it is the most up to date. Cooked roms gain or loose functionality dependant on the cook who made it and what they decided to include or remove.
4. I have never installed the stock t-mobile rom so cant tell you if it will re-lock the device but I wouldnt think so.

***Please for your own sake, read as much as you can in these forums to ensure you know what your going to do, also if you do decide to go for cooked roms make sure you use a rom suitable for your SPL****

Hope this helps

Originally Posted by avengerpenguin

Its been a while since I did mine but will try and advise on what I can remember

1.SIM unlocking is for using other networks operators and sometimes confused with CID unlocking, I think. If your using a vodaphone sim then it is def sim unlocked but in order to get it to a safe point for upgrading ideally you need to install hardspl and cid unlock I think. There are many guides on here but you will have to search and read I'm afraid as most of us did this a while ago.
2/3.Each of the windows builds 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5 bring different things and increased functionality, 6.0 and 6.1 are worthwhile upgrades as they are both official releases, you may struggle to find a stock 6.1 for the ameo though. Again its been a long time since I used 6.1 on any of my devices, 6.5 is ok as long as you realise that its still in MS beta so you may find stuff that doesnt work or isnt perfect but it is the most up to date. Cooked roms gain or loose functionality dependant on the cook who made it and what they decided to include or remove.
4. I have never installed the stock t-mobile rom so cant tell you if it will re-lock the device but I wouldnt think so.

***Please for your own sake, read as much as you can in these forums to ensure you know what your going to do, also if you do decide to go for cooked roms make sure you use a rom suitable for your SPL****

Hope this helps

That's what I was suspecting, that SIM unlocking wasn't the unlocking required to upgrade it. Thanks for reconfirming this.

Now as there is offical WM 6.0 ROM for Ameo linked here, does that mean they (T-Mobile) have also referred their own upgrading procedure somewhere? For my Xperia X1, SE Updte utility takes care of official upgrade task, so something similar had existed sometime as there exists official T-Mobile 6.0 ROM, there must their official procedure too. I will definitely try to find it, but as yet someone had gone through it, please give some hints.

And as yet until I get a definite answer that upgrading it to offical WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM will not lock (I mean SIM Lock) to T-Mobile again, I will prefer to defer although I am still looking to get enhanced performance, it has been with me for just a few day and I don't want to mess it up as I have slowly began to love it! Even it is like my desktop speakerphone at home / office and I have began to talk more conveniently and confortable on the desk or home. Yes, I am still not used to use it as normal small cell phone, but I hope I will gt used to it, although I find to see anything on screen during sulit days or in bright daylight.

Originally Posted by mmbika

That's what I was suspecting, that SIM unlocking wasn't the unlocking required to upgrade it. Thanks for reconfirming this.

Now as there is offical WM 6.0 ROM for Ameo linked here, does that mean they (T-Mobile) have also referred their own upgrading procedure somewhere? For my Xperia X1, SE Updte utility takes care of official upgrade task, so something similar had existed sometime as there exists official T-Mobile 6.0 ROM, there must their official procedure too. I will definitely try to find it, but as yet someone had gone through it, please give some hints.

And as yet until I get a definite answer that upgrading it to offical WM 6.0 T-Mobile ROM will not lock (I mean SIM Lock) to T-Mobile again, I will prefer to defer although I am still looking to get enhanced performance, it has been with me for just a few day and I don't want to mess it up as I have slowly began to love it! Even it is like my desktop speakerphone at home / office and I have began to talk more conveniently and confortable on the desk or home. Yes, I am still not used to use it as normal small cell phone, but I hope I will gt used to it, although I find to see anything on screen during sulit days or in bright daylight.

Hi. welcome to the forum. I was new here six months ago. there is a lot of information here and you MUST take time to read and understand. not many will answer your basic questions. they is not being nasty, it is just the way it is. you must teach yourself. you will not find much (if any) information about official roms.

if you decide to try a cooked rom, Lakeman has produced a great tutorial which is stickied in this forum. It is the one I followed. here is the link

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429013

study this carefully, google anything you dont understand, dont do anything until you are sure you know what you are doing.

just to repeat what avengerpenguin said

MAKE SURE YOU USE A ROM TO SUIT YOUR SPL

good luck

Originally Posted by mmbika

I just bought T-Mobile Ameo WM 5.0 over the ebay which was mentioned unlocked. I am using it with vodafone SIM. I am confused by reading about upgrades that it has to be unlopcked before it ca be upgraded. Does this SIM unlock is the 'unlock' required to upgrde or is it something different?

(1) How do I know that it is really unlocked, if it is different to SIM unlocking? As it is working with other than T-Mobile SIM proves it is unlocked? As different to other WM devices I have used, this is more like a PC booting up.
(2) What are the prime benefits of upgrading to WM6.0?
(3) I want to go for official upgrade (i.e. WM 6.0) than coocked ROMs as for now. Or should I jump to the latest (but coocked Wm 6.1 or WM 6.5) ROM? Do I loose any functionality in installing coocked ROM?
(4) And last, does upgrading to offical ROM (downloaded from links on the forum) will again Unlock it to T-Mobile? This may seem trivial, but I have a bit concern that as it is going to be offical upgrade, can it again lock to T-Mobile? If it does, than I will not be in a position to use it as phone unless I unlock again! This seems funny on my part, but better prevent than cure.

Thanks in advance

to be able to flash cooked ROMs to your phone you need to hardSPL your device. HardSPl will OS unlock your device. to be able to use the best WM6.5 rom for your device you need to upgrade to SPL 3.5.

first thing you need to do:
find out what spl your device is currently using: hold down camera button (all the way down) + press the reset hole/button, keep holding down on the camera button but release the reset hole/button (keep holding on camera button until a multi colored screen comes up (then release camera button) look where it says (spl) tell us what is there.

Originally Posted by lennie

to be able to flash cooked ROMs to your phone you need to hardSPL your device. HardSPl will OS unlock your device. to be able to use the best WM6.5 rom for your device you need to upgrade to SPL 3.5.

first thing you need to do:
find out what spl your device is currently using: hold down camera button (all the way down) + press the reset hole/button, keep holding down on the camera button but release the reset hole/button (keep holding on camera button until a multi colored screen comes up (then release camera button) look where it says (spl) tell us what is there.

It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.

I have however noticed two issues,

(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.

I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.

Originally Posted by mmbika

It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.

I have however noticed two issues,

(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.

I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.

HSDPA may be down to the age of the rom, if tmobile didnt have their HSDPA running when the rom was built may not be included in the icons etc

Windows live should be available through cab if you search or use a 3rd party app like palringo

Originally Posted by mmbika

It was 1.10 something and I upgraded to T-Mobile official WM6 ROM today without any issues and overall device is more fast and chunkier. Now it is 2.35 something.

I have however noticed two issues,

(1) HSDPA switch is enabled yet 'H' icon has gone so probably it is not connecting to HSDPA mode, I guess. I want the 'H' back.
(2) Windows Live is gone.
(3) Programs icons are noit alfabatically sorted but somehow lossely scattered.

I googled that Ameo doesn't require CID unlocked and it upgrades directly and it did via T-Mobile application which runs via USB cable.

Hi and welcome to the forum,
Now I have been using the Ameo for 2 years now, and must have flashed about every rom there is for it. So the other day I thought about going back to a stock WM6.0 T-mobile rom and try it for a few days to see how different it was to a cooked rom. Well it lasted 2 hours and I put it back to Michy's 5.1 rom. Now I'm not saying that Michy's roms are the mutts nutts of roms, that is down to personal choice, but it just proved to me why we use cooked roms. Read the WIKI, and I very much doubt you will have a fault that's not covered in that page.Also read THIS superb thread, it tells you all you need to know BE very careful when choosing a rom that you check the SPL on it, as flashing an SPL 3.5 rom onto an Ameo with another SPL will cause all sorts of problems. Like I say, Read the WIKI FIRST. take your time, and do nothing till you are sure!

Regards
Jay

Somehow I found internet access speeds even better although it doesn't display 'H' for HSDPA, because noe HD youtube videos plays smoothly with less buffering, i.e. seems good enough. Battery life has been extended.

USB host is still not good, can't retain it's status, can't load HDD or DVD or CD drives (via powered hub, offcourse)

I was just ponderind, does it drain more battery while connected to keyboard as keyboard definitely will be needing some current to drive and power to run it, that means even when it is plugged in to charger or USB to a PC, what difference does i make w.r.t time it takes to fully charge and retain there where keyboard is connected and when not?