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Default Filed a class action lawsuit against T-Mobile and Samsung

I have secured a lawyer, and filed a class action lawsuit
against T-Mobile and Samsung
I explained all my issues with them, and they agree
that I have a very strong case.

http://edelson.com/

Samsung and T-Mobile have clearly violated the law concerning

Unfair and Deceptive Consumer Business Practices

they have continuously lied to us about the hardware,
and software reliability of this phone,
they promised us updates (to 2.2! Not the functionally dead JI6 2.1!)
over and over,
NOW they plan to release NEW galaxies
without updating the old ones they currently have
The GPS is clearly a hardware defect.
There are just too many issues with this phone
and the Customer service reps have been combative
even bullying and threatening customers!

a clear violation of US law

just let me know what your issues are,
and we can join together to fight this "TOO BIG TOO FAIL"
corporation

Anyone who has any issues whatsoever
please e mail me all your info and whatever issues you have had with this device
to my inbox
at: SinistaBeatz@GMail.com

below I have attached the law which outlines what is constituted as unfair and deceptive consumer business practices

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http://www.enotes.com/everyday-law-e...rade-practices

Deceptive Trade Practices


Background

Federal legislation and statutes in every state prohibit employment of unfair or deceptive trade practices and UNFAIR COMPETITION in business. The Federal Trade Commission regulates federal laws designed to prohibit a series of specific practices prohibited in interstate commerce. Several states have established CONSUMER PROTECTION offices as part of the state attorney general offices.

The Federal Trade Commission Act (FTCA), originally passed in 1914 and amended several times thereafter, was the original STATUTE in the United States prohibiting "unfair or deceptive trade acts or practices." Development of the federal law was related to federal antitrust and trademark INFRINGEMENTlegislation. Prior to the enactment in the 1960s of state statutes prohibiting deceptive trade practices, the main focus of state law in this area was "unfair competition," which refers to the tort action for practices employed by businesses to confuse consumers as to the source of a product. The tort action for a business "passing off" its goods as those of another was based largely on the COMMON LAW tort action for trademark infringement.

Because the law governing deceptive trade practices was undefined and unclear, the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws in 1964 drafted the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act. The NCCUSL revised this uniform law in 1966. The law was originally "designed to bring state law up to date by removing undue restrictions on the common law action for deceptive trade practices." Only eleven states have adopted this act, but it has had a significant effect on other states. Most state deceptive or unfair trade practices statutes were originally enacted between the mid-1960s and mid-1970s.

Applicability of Deceptive Trade Practices Statutes

Deceptive trade practices statutes do not govern all situations where one party has deceived another party. Most states limit the scope of these statutes to commercial transactions involving a consumer purchasing or leasing goods or services for personal, household, or family purposes. The terms used in each statute to set forth the scope of the statute are often the subject of LITIGATION. The majority of states requires a liberal interpretation of the terms of the deceptive trade practices statutes, including those describing the applicability of the statutes.

Trade or Commerce

Several states limit the applicability of deceptive trade practices to transactions in trade or commerce. This requirement usually incorporates a broad range of profit-oriented transactions. But it generally excludes trade between non-merchants and similar transactions.

Consumer Transactions

The appropriate plaintiff under most deceptive trade practices acts is a consumer, commonly defined as a person who will use a good or service for personal, family, or household purposes. The determination of whether a plaintiff is a consumer often requires use of one of two types of analysis, a subjective test and an objective test. The subjective analysis typically considers the intended use of the good or service at the time of the transaction. Thus, if a buyer of a good intends at the time of a purchase to use to good for a personal, family, or household purpose, the buyer will likely be considered a consumer under the relevant statute. The objective analysis considers whether the type of good or service involved in the transaction is ordinarily used for a personal, family, or household purpose.

Goods or Services

Goods are defined under the UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE as those items movable at the time of a purchase. Many deceptive trade practices statutes apply this definition to the requirement that goods are involved in a transaction for a deceptive trade practices statute to apply. Livestock are also usually included in the definition of a good. Statutes and courts usually define services broadly, including in the definition most activities conducted on behalf of another. Some states require that consumers seek to purchase merchandise, which incorporates goods, services, real property, commodities, and some intangibles.

Prohibited Acts and Practices

Most state deceptive trade practices statutes include broad restrictions on "deceptive" or "unfair" trade practices. These states often include prohibitions against FRAUDULENT practices and unconscionable practices. The Federal Trade Commission, when interpreting the FTCA, does not require that the person committing an act of deception have the intent to deceive. Moreover, the FTC does not require that actual deception occur. The FTC merely requires that a party have the capacity to deceive or commit an unfair trade practice. If a business or individual has this capacity or tendency to deceive, the FTC under the FTCA may order the company to cease and desist the deceptive or unfair practice. State statutes similarly do not require that a company specifically intends to deceive, nor must a company always have knowledge that a statement is false to be liable for misrepresentations made to a consumer.

A consumer who has been victimized by a potential deceptive or unfair trade practice should consult the deceptive trade practice statute in that state, plus consult CASE LAW applying this statute, to determine whether he or she has a cause of action. In addition to the broad prohibition against deception, most state statutes also include a list of practices that are defined as deceptive. Under the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act, if a business or person engages in the following, the action constitutes a deceptive trade practice:

Passes off goods or services as those of another
Causes likelihood of confusion or of misunderstanding as to the source, sponsorship, approval, or certification of goods or services
Causes likelihood of confusion or of misunderstanding as to affiliation, connection, or association with, or certification by, another
Uses deceptive representations or designations of geographic origin in connection with goods or services
Represents that goods or services have sponsorship, approval, characteristics, ingredients, uses, benefits, or qualities that they do not have or that a person has a sponsor-ship, approval, status, affiliation, or connection that he does not have
Represents that goods are original or new if they are deteriorated, altered, reconditioned, reclaimed, used, or second-hand
Represents that goods or services are of particular standard, quality, or grade, or that goods are of particular style or model, if they are of another
Disparages the goods, services, or business of another by false or misleading misrepresentation of fact
Advertises goods or services with intent not to sell them as advertised
Advertises goods or services with intent not to supply reasonably expected public demand, unless advertisement discloses a limitation of quantity
Makes false or misleading statements of fact concerning the reasons for, existence of, or amounts of price reductions
Engages in any other conduct which similarly creates the likelihood of confusion or of misunderstanding
Most states include similar items in their lists of deceptive trade practices violations, even if those states have not adopted the uniform act. In addition, the FTC and many states prohibit other unfair practices, including the following:

Unfair provisions in contracts of adhesion
Coercive or high-pressure tactics in sales and collection efforts
Illegal conduct
Taking advantage of bargaining power of vulnerable groups
Taking advantage of emergency situations
Unconscionable activities, including outrageous and offensive conduct by a business in the sale of goods or services
Other Practices Deemed Deceptive or Unfair

Debt Collection

The Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and state debt collection statutes govern most abuses by debt collectors in debt collection activities. Deceptive trade practices statutes may provide remedies in situations that are not covered by these debt collection statutes. For example, most debt collection statutes do not cover some forms of debt collection, such as foreclosures, repossessions, and evictions, but a deceptive trade practices statute may apply. Moreover, deceptive trade practices statutes may also permit a consumer to bring a cause of action against a CREDITOR for debt collection practices of an independent agency hired by the creditor. Several cases have dealt with issues regarding misrepresentations made by debt collectors or deceptive agreements proposed by debt collectors.

Breach of Warranties

Consumers have several means of enforcing a WARRANTY provided in a sales or service contract. If a business employs deceptive practices with respect to the advertisement or negotiation of a warranty, a deceptive trade practices statute may provide a consumer a remedy in addition to a breach of warranty claim.

Insurance

Most states have enacted legislation regarding deceptive practices of insurance companies, including those practices related to the sale of policies and the payment of claims. In some states, employment of a deceptive practice in insurance is also a deceptive trade practice. A deceptive trade practices statute may also provide a remedy in insurance cases where state insurance laws do not apply.

Pyramid Schemes and Similar Practices

Several states prohibit certain illegal business schemes through deceptive trace practices statutes. One such scheme is a "pyramid scheme," where investors make money by recruiting others to join and invest in a company rather than selling a product as claimed by the company. Other schemes include deceptive employment opportunity claims and misleading or deceptive game or contest promotions. Some states do not specifically include these schemes in the statute, but courts in those states may have applied provisions of the relevant deceptive trade practices statute in cases involving these schemes.

Remedies for Violations of Deceptive Trade Practices Statutes

A consumer who has been the victim of a deceptive trade practice has a variety of remedies. State deceptive trade practices statutes have been particularly successful due to the damages provisions included in the statutes. About half of the states provide minimum STATUTORY damages to a litigant who has proven a deceptive trade practice, even if the litigant has not proven actual damages. Many states also permit courts to award treble damages, which means the actual damages to a party injured by a deceptive trade practice are tripled. Several states also permit courts to impose PUNITIVE DAMAGES and/or attorney's fees for these practices.

In addition to monetary damages, several other options may exist for a person injured by a deceptive trade practice. When the FTC has JURISDICTION over a case, it may enjoin a deceptive trade practice of a company under the FTCA. Statutes in each of the states also permit government enforcement officials to seek cease and desist orders to prevent businesses from engaging in deceptive trade practices. These remedies may be available in addition to civil remedies sought by private litigants.
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I think at this point you've got a strong case, as Edelson McGuire has stated. I too purchased both my wife and myself a Vibrant under the false promise that 2.2 would be arriving around the corner (back in August, this was), which would allow me to do the things that I wanted to do which was not available in 1.6, and 2.1 to some extent. Let me know how I can help, if I can that is.
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I think at this point you've got a strong case, as Edelson McGuire has stated. I too purchased both my wife and myself a Vibrant under the false promise that 2.2 would be arriving around the corner (back in August, this was), which would allow me to do the things that I wanted to do which was not available in 1.6, and 2.1 to some extent.
If you have that promise in writing, I'm sure the OP would love a copy. If not, you have been delivered no such promise as far as the law's eye can see.

We are at the whim of Samsung, and they are not stupid. They may do the bare minimum with regard to customer support, but (atleast IMHO) they have broken no laws. The only thing wrong with this phone is a defective GPS on certain units, which has and continues to be replaced anytime the issue is brought to their attention.

The only way to hit them is to take your business elsewhere. No sense in paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to some local law firm who has no qualms about losing to a giant like Samsung as long as your retainer clears the bank. Especially not over some phone that you paid no more than $500 for, $200 in many cases.

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If you have that promise in writing, I'm sure the OP would love a copy. If not, you have been delivered no such promise as far as the law's eye can see.

We are at the whim of Samsung, and they are not stupid. They may do the bare minimum with regard to customer support, but (atleast IMHO) they have broken no laws. The only thing wrong with this phone is a defective GPS on certain units, which has and continues to be replaced anytime the issue is brought to their attention.

The only way to hit them is to take your business elsewhere. No sense in paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to some local law firm who has no qualms about losing to a giant like Samsung as long as your retainer clears the bank. Especially not over some phone that you paid no more than $500 for, $200 in many cases.

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HA HA HA How ignorant are you?
first of all the LAW clearly states that
there doesn't have to be any ACTUAL action
All that has to be proven is that Samsung INTENDED to lie to sell this device

similar to the way they INTENDED to fix their TV prices...

They lost that case...

Now they DID promise us FROYO
Continuously
Time, and Time again
Now there is a question whether or not
there should actually be a HARDWARE recall
for the GPS

as posted on this Sight
now remember I am not committing Libel
because I stated clearly it is in QUESTION

Not an actual statement within a press conference
as is par for course for such a situation

you must remember there are intelligent people in this world
such as myself
I am gifted with an extremely acute mind that functions similarly to a computer
I have memorized almost every post, and article regarding this matter, and have been in the process of RE-collecting this information in their ACTUAL physical form. So that I may present my case.

I have faced adversity, and clear bias towards my decision

I made an oath to myself, to others, and to my country
to selflessly defend myself and my country
to protect it from ALL enemies
Foreign, and Domestic
No matter what; So help me God

I'm a man of my word

Figure out where I'm coming from on that one
OK
now prove us wrong Mr. know it all
 
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....you must remember there are intelligent people in this world
such as myself
I am gifted with an extremely acute mind that functions similarly to a computer...
LMAO OMG LOLOLOLOL

Spoiler alert: Your mind does not function similarly to a computer. Do you forget everything you were working on every time you go to bed?
 
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LMAO OMG LOLOLOLOL

Spoiler alert: Your mind does not function similarly to a computer. Do you forget everything you were working on every time you go to bed?
you got me there...LOL
 
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OP: HA HA HA How ignorant are you?
first of all the LAW clearly states that
there doesn't have to be any ACTUAL action
All that has to be proven is that Samsung INTENDED to lie to sell this device

similar to the way they INTENDED to fix their TV prices...

They lost that case...


Please provide proof that Samsung intended to lie, for sales purposes. Additionally please show the internal document you have obtained from Samsung that states no such 2.2 update will ever be given to Vibrant or other SGS users. Failing that, at least provide a document from Samsung giving an absolute end-date by which 2.2 would be provided to us.

OP: Now they DID promise us FROYO
Continuously
Time, and Time again
Now there is a question whether or not
there should actually be a HARDWARE recall
for the GPS


Again, please disseminate the documents that will be provided in court showing the date that Samsung stated they would have 2.2 released by, or the documents stating that indeed no such upgrade would ever be provided.

Samsung has admitted to the faulty GPS hardware, and has been producing devices with the correct GPS fix since 10/2010 and replacing those manufactured prior to this date with new devices. If you were denied such a replacement as a result of voiding your warranty by rooting and modding, well that's your problem. Not mine, and not Samsung's.


OP: you must remember there are intelligent people in this world
such as myself
I am gifted with an extremely acute mind that functions similarly to a computer


I forget that there are intelligent people in this world because people like you are much, much louder than the intelligent people and drown them out. You are arrogant - to the point of delusion, it appears. Honestly, I don't think you are stupid. But your posts make you sound stupid (*Read through this guy's other posts on XDA). Does your computer mind have a spellcheck?


OP: I made an oath to myself, to others, and to my country
to selflessly defend myself and my country
to protect it from ALL enemies
Foreign, and Domestic
No matter what; So help me God


So defend the free market, like a good American. If Samsung screwed the pooch, they will pay for it in their bottom line, as a result of losing their customer base. Unless you know something about Samsung's intentions with FroYo that we don't, Samsung has done nothing illegal.

Seriously, guy. I'm not being obstinate to be obstinate. Provide me what evidence you have and I will be right there next to you defending our country from the evil Korean tyrant (Samsung, not Kim Jong Il). I just don't trust that some ambulance chasing firm is going to be able to bring down a multinational like Samsung, especially not with the grievances we have.

When our phones start shooting lasers into our brains and making us all think like computers (), without our knowledge then we might have a solid case.

I really do hope you have the documentation that will bring them down. Because while I do not believe they have done anything illegal, I do believe at the very least that their practices are unethical and I would like to see that changed. Unfortunately in our litigious society, a lawsuit is generally the only cure for that.
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OP: HA HA HA How ignorant are you?
first of all the LAW clearly states that
there doesn't have to be any ACTUAL action
All that has to be proven is that Samsung INTENDED to lie to sell this device

similar to the way they INTENDED to fix their TV prices...

They lost that case...


Please provide proof that Samsung intended to lie, for sales purposes. Additionally please show the internal document you have obtained from Samsung that states no such 2.2 update will ever be given to Vibrant or other SGS users. Failing that, at least provide a document from Samsung giving an absolute end-date by which 2.2 would be provided to us.

OP: Now they DID promise us FROYO
Continuously
Time, and Time again
Now there is a question whether or not
there should actually be a HARDWARE recall
for the GPS


Again, please disseminate the documents that will be provided in court showing the date that Samsung stated they would have 2.2 released by, or the documents stating that indeed no such upgrade would ever be provided.

Samsung has admitted to the faulty GPS hardware, and has been producing devices with the correct GPS fix since 10/2010 and replacing those manufactured prior to this date with new devices. If you were denied such a replacement as a result of voiding your warranty by rooting and modding, well that's your problem. Not mine, and not Samsung's.


OP: you must remember there are intelligent people in this world
such as myself
I am gifted with an extremely acute mind that functions similarly to a computer


I forget that there are intelligent people in this world because people like you are much, much louder than the intelligent people and drown them out. You are arrogant - to the point of delusion, it appears. Honestly, I don't think you are stupid. But your posts make you sound stupid (*Read through this guy's other posts on XDA). Does your computer mind have a spellcheck?


OP: I made an oath to myself, to others, and to my country
to selflessly defend myself and my country
to protect it from ALL enemies
Foreign, and Domestic
No matter what; So help me God


So defend the free market, like a good American. If Samsung screwed the pooch, they will pay for it in their bottom line, as a result of losing their customer base. Unless you know something about Samsung's intentions with FroYo that we don't, Samsung has done nothing illegal.

Seriously, guy. I'm not being obstinate to be obstinate. Provide me what evidence you have and I will be right there next to you defending our country from the evil Korean tyrant (Samsung, not Kim Jong Il). I just don't trust that some ambulance chasing firm is going to be able to bring down a multinational like Samsung, especially not with the grievances we have.

When our phones start shooting lasers into our brains and making us all think like computers (), without our knowledge then we might have a solid case.

I really do hope you have the documentation that will bring them down. Because while I do not believe they have done anything illegal, I do believe at the very least that their practices are unethical and I would like to see that changed. Unfortunately in our litigious society, a lawsuit is generally the only cure for that.
My sole purpose of posting this is of course to receive intelligent and honest
feedback based on the actions I have taken
I am definitely trying to secure documents and more proof
there may be a subpeona for information

The FACT that there is a HARDWARE fix for the GPS on this post
WITH Pictures
Which I have screenshots of BTW
PROVES that there is an obvious DEFECT
I just received a replacement device yesterday
The GPS DOES NOT WORK
it took me over an hour to flash the ROM NERO 3 with SBG 2.2
and Voodoo because my JISucks device was extraordinarily slow and laggy
WITH ABSOLUTELY NO APPS INSTALLED BESIDES THE STOCK ONES
 
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I think at this point you've got a strong case. I too purchased both my wife and myself a Vibrant under the false promise that with the faulty expectations that 2.2 would be arriving around the corner (back in August, this was), which would allow me to do the things that I wanted to do which was not available in 1.6, and 2.1 to some extent. even though the phone didn't do everything that I wanted it to then. Without any guarantee in writing, I took a risk anyway because I had hope that my patience would pay off (eventually). Let me know how I can help, if I can that is. I shouldn't have bought the device for what it couldn't do yet but since I'm unwilling to accept any fault in this, I'm totally in favor making Samsung pay for my bad judgment back then.
I think it's more realistic sounding this way, anyone agree?

However, that doesn't mean I wouldn't love to see Samsung pay for the GPS situation somehow. Aside from that, I wish them no ill will. I chose to purchase a 2.1 device and hoped / believed I'd get 2.2 later. If I don't, I'll not lose any sleep over since I've been using 2.2 for months now.
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This is moronic. You have zero proof that either party intentionally harmed a consumer. Your attorney is lucky to bilk hours against your retainer.

people, it's a blog post on androidspin! Not a sworn statement. Stop getting all worked up.

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