MIUI for Milestone 2

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Hey there.

Since I just saw the available Argen2stone ROM I wanted to ask: Is it possible now to pack custom roms on the milestone 2? Last thing I read few montht or weeks ago was, that there is an issue about the bootloader or something.
Since it is possible to use Argen2stone, is it now possible to get MIUI running on the Milestone 2?

Please read the forum guidelines first!

A special Thread is not needed for this question, but let me help you in a few words:

Yes, it's possible. It was also possible before. But that aren't really Custom ROM's. What Argen2Stone ROM does is replacing the system files on out Milestone 2.
The developer changes the original Motorola ROM: Nothing more. A "true" Custom ROM is Cyanogen, which uses a special kernel. Caused by the locked bootloader it's not possible to change replace these things, so a true Custom ROM won't work.

About MIUI:
No, the developer of the ROM has to to a fully rebuild based on the MS2 ROM. Otherwise it won't work.

Same for FissionROM (we're waiting for it)... But I think the dev. of FissionROM wanna use his Droid2/Global Builds and get it running on the MS2. Also a way, but more complicated I think...

Originally Posted by 001356

Please read the forum guidelines first!
The developer changes the original Motorola ROM: Nothing more. A "true" Custom ROM is Cyanogen, which uses a special kernel.

I don't think a special kernel is must for custom ROM, as all that we use on the phone are delvik apps running in the virtual machine. So the ROM can be customized very dramatically without touching the VM and kernel underneath.

And btw, Milestone 2 has not been sold a lot in China, partially due to Moto's bad fame of late system update. MIUI is a Chinese group, so I'm afraid they won't start working MS2 in a short time

excellent....

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Originally Posted by cyaniris

I don't think a special kernel is must for custom ROM, as all that we use on the phone are delvik apps running in the virtual machine. So the ROM can be customized very dramatically without touching the VM and kernel underneath.

And btw, Milestone 2 has not been sold a lot in China, partially due to Moto's bad fame of late system update. MIUI is a Chinese group, so I'm afraid they won't start working MS2 in a short time

Hrm, well, the fact that there's a Chinese group out there working on custom ROMs is a relief to me. However, considering ROMs for Android is like stuff I've never seen before, I'm having trouble understanding a damn thing. I just got a MS2 and I live in China. It's awesome, but the English interface can't type in Chinese, I can only receive it. Plus the whole MotoBlur thing doesn't work with a crap. I was hoping there might be some custom ROMs out there that support Chinese. So far, it looks like there could be a chance, so that's for the good news cyaniris. But now I have a LOT to learn about androids and ROMs, as I haven't a darn clue what any of this lingo means (MIUI, bootstrap or bootloader, kernels, fisionROM, CM, rsdlite, nandroid, and tons of other terms ive seen thrown around the forums). Anyway, I'll still do some reading, but you've made me happy knowing if a nice customROM that has an English interface that can be used in China with the usual Western Apps but Chinese compatible doesn't exist, one probably will with enough demand. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Spixe1

Hrm, well, the fact that there's a Chinese group out there working on custom ROMs is a relief to me. However, considering ROMs for Android is like stuff I've never seen before, I'm having trouble understanding a damn thing. I just got a MS2 and I live in China. It's awesome, but the English interface can't type in Chinese, I can only receive it. Plus the whole MotoBlur thing doesn't work with a crap. I was hoping there might be some custom ROMs out there that support Chinese. So far, it looks like there could be a chance, so that's for the good news cyaniris. But now I have a LOT to learn about androids and ROMs, as I haven't a darn clue what any of this lingo means (MIUI, bootstrap or bootloader, kernels, fisionROM, CM, rsdlite, nandroid, and tons of other terms ive seen thrown around the forums). Anyway, I'll still do some reading, but you've made me happy knowing if a nice customROM that has an English interface that can be used in China with the usual Western Apps but Chinese compatible doesn't exist, one probably will with enough demand. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Mikevhl

RSD Lite is a program you run on your computer by Motorola. It flashes official motorola releases without having the need of a working phone, so it has two purposes: Updating to a new motorola-release and restoring when the phone is screwed.

defy is a phone by motorola, which earns it's name because it defies water and dust

bootstrap is not something that's easy to explain, to keep it simple it allows you to boot into a custom recovery that allows you to flash non-motorola roms, like the project I'm working on. It also allows you to make nandroid backups

nandroid backups are direct dumps of system partitions packed into an .img, kinda comparable to ripping a dvd to a .iso file. The most important system partitions are:
/system <-- stores, well, the system. All apps and drivers and such. The partition is uneditable by default, but by gaining root acces (rooting) you are able to remount the system as read-write instead of read-only and are thus able to edit the system files. You could compare it to program files and the WINDOWS on one partition.
/data <-- stores your data, google login infos and such. It's always accesable. Comparable to my documents.
/cache <-- not really sure what it does
/recovery <-- this is the recovery mode on the phone. It is locked and unreplacable. It can be used to flash official signed motorola images but that's all. That's why we need the bootstrap app to launch our own recovery, the one inside /recovery is unmodify-able.
/boot <-- You've probably heard of this. The locked bootloader means that /boot is unaccesable for us. /boot contains very core stuff and for some people it's better that it's locked down.

Hope that clarifies stuff a little bit

I'm working on porting CyanogenMod 6. I have no clue wether it supports chinese but it's FAST and it has no motoblur

CyanogenMod 6 huh? OK, another term I gotta do some research on, haha. Make it support Chinese please!! I love to play with customROMs but they're all worthless unless I can input and read Chinese on it. But no pressure mate, I'm sure you got a stack of things to do when it comes to developing, I only wish I could do it myself. But if you do have time and resources, I'll do what I can to help.

you probably mean Dalvik apps instead of delvik XD

Originally Posted by 001356

Please read the forum guidelines first!

A special Thread is not needed for this question, but let me help you in a few words:

Yes, it's possible. It was also possible before. But that aren't really Custom ROM's. What Argen2Stone ROM does is replacing the system files on out Milestone 2.
The developer changes the original Motorola ROM: Nothing more. A "true" Custom ROM is Cyanogen, which uses a special kernel. Caused by the locked bootloader it's not possible to change replace these things, so a true Custom ROM won't work.

About MIUI:
No, the developer of the ROM has to to a fully rebuild based on the MS2 ROM. Otherwise it won't work.

Same for FissionROM (we're waiting for it)... But I think the dev. of FissionROM wanna use his Droid2/Global Builds and get it running on the MS2. Also a way, but more complicated I think...

a true custom rom will not work ?

bull****

mike and i did port CM6 to the xperia x10 mini pro

and guess what !?

on the stock kernel coz the bootloader is locked

and guess another thing

im now running a test overclocked kernel build by myself on a locked bootloader

and about the MIUI you say

that is also not completly true

our cm6 build was based on HTC hero sources and it did work

impossibility is a myth not the truth

Everything is possible, you just need developer willing to do this. You'd better pray for someone to port CM7 to MM2

I *MIGHT* look at it when I get cm6 running. I really dislike MIUI though so you'd really have to convince me to making it. I won't even start as of now just yet, since CM has a waaay higher priority to me right now.