Originally Posted by mattykinsx

I bet if I took a poll on here the overwhelming majority of people would click "no" to:

Do you know someone that has won the lottery?


Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.


The mere suggestion that because something hasn't happened to you, or that some online poll says it hasn't happened so it must not, is absurd. At best.

No, I'm not suggesting that SBC kernels cause phones to explode.

But there's a lot of data supporting the idea that they can cause long term damage.


Battery's are not supposed to be filled and kept at their maximum for a reason.
And that reason isn't because the manufacturer wants your battery to drop to 90% as soon as you take it off the charger.

Smh smh smh...ur gonna compare not knowing someone who has won the lottery to an SBC kernal damaging ur battery. Sorry I've seen one maybe two people ever say they had something bad when using an SBC kernal...not saying it could potentially be bad ill take the risk and enjoy my long lasting battery...and leave u to continually playing the devils advocate and taking the opposite side of everyone u ever speak to.

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf151

Smh smh smh...ur gonna compare not knowing someone who has won the lottery to an SBC kernal damaging ur battery

No but I should have known someone would try to read it that way.

The point simply is just because it doesn't happen to you(or someone you know) doesn't mean that's proof it doesn't happen.

I've been rooted since i got my evo, and i have read up on the SBC kernels.
they are safe. Only one person has claimed to have damage from SBC, and it started a lot of hoopla.
IMO: they're perfectly safe

Originally Posted by mattykinsx

No but I should have known someone would try to read it that way.

The point simply is just because it doesn't happen to you(or someone you know) doesn't mean that's proof it doesn't happen.

Yes but from poll after poll and with use by many here on xda the proof is in the positive feed back from those that use SBC kernals. The only people I see knocking SBC kernals are those that are afraid to use them. And I've seen people win the lottery...it happens so what...I'm sure bears **** in the woods and also sure if a tree falls it makes a noise even though I'm not there to hear it. Just cause it happens doesn't mean I really care. Again ill enjoy my long battery life and watch those afraid to use SBC complain over and over again bad battery life....btw I unpluged my phone a 8 am and am at 36% right now and am a heavy user on my phone.

Originally Posted by johnylovejoy

I've been rooted since i got my evo, and i have read up on the SBC kernels.
they are safe. Only one person has claimed to have damage from SBC, and it started a lot of hoopla.
IMO: they're perfectly safe

Nevermind, You modified your post.

People who win the lottery are a very diverse group; people of all kinds of ages, interests, parts of the country/world, etc. There isn't a very nice discussion area designated for people who win the lottery. People who flash kernels on their phones are probably going to be on some kind of android development forum like this one.

On top of that, lotteries have a rather set chance of winning. The effects of SBC to your battery isn't a roll of the dice.

Originally Posted by johnylovejoy

I've been rooted since i got my evo, and i have read up on the SBC kernels.
they are safe. Only one person has claimed to have damage from SBC, and it started a lot of hoopla.
IMO: they're perfectly safe

They r safe...the person who stated it bleeding up his phone just caused mass hysteria and its never been proven. Matty here plays devils advocate cause he likes to argue and will never admit to being wrong. Ud have better luck arguing with a wall. But like u I will not allow people to think SBC kernals are dangerous.

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf151

They r safe...the person who stated it bleeding up his phone just caused mass hysteria and its never been proven. Matty here plays devils advocate cause he likes to argue and will never admit to being wrong. Ud have better luck arguing with a wall. But like u I will not allow people to think SBC kernals are dangerous.

Dude mustve had a defective phone or battery with high wear issues. Usually battery calibrations can reduce the battery wear that accumates on your batt. The blowing up crap is pure bs. He probably had high temps. That is all.

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Originally Posted by PwnCloud

People who win the lottery are a very diverse group; people of all kinds of ages, interests, parts of the country/world, etc. There isn't a very nice discussion area designated for people who win the lottery. People who flash kernels on their phones are probably going to be on some kind of android development forum like this one.

On top of that, lotteries have a rather set chance of winning. The effects of SBC to your battery isn't a roll of the dice.

Your problem is two fold:

A) You make assumptions.

B) You have a group of people that keep their phones for about a year.
The average person isn't changing their phone out on a yearly basis.
If it's only long term damage that's caused then it's possible the damage occurs over years time instead of months.

Originally Posted by Papa Smurf151

Matty here plays devils advocate cause he likes to argue and will never admit to being wrong. Ud have better luck arguing with a wall. But like u I will not allow people to think SBC kernals are dangerous.

If you don't want to be apart of this discussion you're welcome to close your browser.
So irritating that things can't be discussed on these forums anymore.

Originally Posted by mattykinsx

Your problem is two fold:

A) You make assumptions.

B) You have a group of people that keep their phones for about a year.
The average person isn't changing their phone out on a yearly basis.
If it's only long term damage that's caused then it's possible the damage occurs over years time instead of months.

I believe it's a logical assumption (I believe you meant about people flashing kernels using forums?)

I don't think the average person flashes SBC kernels on their phones. Also another good reason why engineers don't design stock phones to charge that way.

I never said I didn't think that it's capable of causing damage, by the way. All I'm saying is that the lottery is a bad analogy and I believe it's much more likely to hear about someone's kernel causing battery damage than about someone winning the lottery.