[Q] General Regarding Firmware, Root and ROM

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1. What is the point in initially rooting, when you have to re-root it back into the stock firmware to flash custom ROM?

I got my phone back with these new (or old?) settings:
Firmware Version: 2.1- update1
Kernel Version 2.6.29, root@sep-58#2
Build number: ECLAIR.UXJI2

2. Does this mean my phone is already rooted?
3. What is my course of action next if I want a custom ROM?
- would it be step 2 in this guide? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
- would I be rooting AGAIN?


Kind of new to the Android scene, and it's kind of overwhelming. I have exhausted the stickies and the MUST READS, if I could get some help, it would greatly be appreciated. Thanks.

icedd,

I do not believe that you are rooted. Looks like you have pure stock Eclair out of the box with Rogers.

And here's a little info for ya...

In the days of Eclair and Froyo, rooting ur phone was needed initially in order to get the ClockWorkMod Recovery (CWM) on ur phone. And from there once you had copied an Eclair or Froyo Rom to the internal sdcard of the phone, you could use the CWM to flash (install) the Rom that the Developer had made.

Later, once the Devs started baking (building in) the CWM into the kernels that were included in their Roms, it was realized that if you just used Odin to flash that dev kernel to ur phone you could then just reboot into the CWM and from there flash the dev's Rom. So in fact, you do not have to be rooted to install a custom dev rom. But you need to be familiar with the use of Odin and CWM Recovery.

And as far as the Gingerbread Roms, well... that is a different story- kinda.

Your best bet, as you have stated that you have read a lot, is to read and read some more. And you could also go to mobiletechvideos.com on youtube -- there are excellent videos there, that are very instructional - from the basics to the very advanced. So, please check that youtube channel out. You will not be disappointed.

Don't be discouraged. There is a lot to learn at first, but you'll get it.

And one more thing, if you are gonna start flashing roms, then you really need to buy a "Jig". Because you will need it and it will pay for itself the first time you use it.

Thanks for your input.

I haven't come across someone with a Build number of ECLAIR.UXJI2, or someone with a Baseband version of JI2. Does this mean I am already on stock firmware? Or not?

I don't know if I should do the oneclickroot or the update.zip now.

edit: I cannot even get into Recovery mode. Something tells me I won't be able to go there because I don't see the AT&T screen. I still have Rogers when I turn on the phone normally. I would need the Odin3 One-click to go truly back to stock first?

so that is stock already.... if you just want to root your stock eclair then you can do update.zip or oneclick. if you were planning to go to a GB rom then you may as well skip that and just use odin...
but it would depend on what rom you wanted to end up with...
keep at it you'll get there

Yes I have successfully rooted my phone.

The current problem I have right now is that I cannot get into Recovery mode with the 3 button method, which is required if I want MIUI (which is what I'm shooting for).

However, I can get it through CWM Recovery, which is the same thing assumably?

edit: Also, I cannot get into Download mode without the ADB command method. For Volume UP+Down + Power Button, it leads me to the battery standby screen, and then into a battery charging screen.

Originally Posted by icedd

Yes I have successfully rooted my phone.

The current problem I have right now is that I cannot get into Recovery mode with the 3 button method, which is required if I want MIUI (which is what I'm shooting for).

However, I can get it through CWM Recovery, which is the same thing assumably?

edit: Also, I cannot get into Download mode without the ADB command method. For Volume UP+Down + Power Button, it leads me to the battery standby screen, and then into a battery charging screen.

You don't use the power button when plugging in USB and holding both volume rockers. Tryit. Volume up/down, plug in USB. Should be dl mode. Unless you have I9000 bootloaders. In that case, volume down and insert USB, or volume down and power without USB.

I followed what you said and these are the results.

Volume up + Down + USB = Battery Standby + Battery Charging screen
Volume down + USB = Battery Standby + Battery Charging screen
Volume down + power =Normal Startup

If you press and hold all 3 at the same time, does it take you to recovery?

Originally Posted by icedd

I followed what you said and these are the results.

Volume up + Down + USB = Battery Standby + Battery Charging screen
Volume down + USB = Battery Standby + Battery Charging screen
Volume down + power =Normal Startup

Try it again. Its very common for it not to work on the first couple of attempts. Hold both volume keys and then plug in the USB to the phone.

Tried both of your suggestions again, a couple of times.

Pressing all three buttons = Normal Bootup, although I do get an extended Rogers loading screen from this, but no recovery whatsoever. (nvm, when I normally boot up, there is this Rogers loading screen)

Holding both volume keys + USB = Battery Standby screen --> Battery charging screen

Is it because of any of this?
Firmware Version: 2.1- update1
Kernel Version 2.6.29, root@sep-58#2
Baseband Version: I896UXJI2
Build number: ECLAIR.UXJI2

Sidenote: Does my baseband version have to be completely correct in order to flash custom ROM? I have been told that this is Rogers STOCK, and I have already rooted.


edit: I will use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...4&postcount=36 to try and get back to JH7 first actually. Hopefully I am doing this right..