just got a call from gloria of the fcc saying that they are serving verizon wireless with violations of the locked bootloader on moto devices!

Sweet hope that's what fcc really doing

So hopefully moto going to release unlock bootloaders soon

hope so, but nothings guaranteed

Verizon will just say that if they unlock it they will lose money because people get free apps and free data use. Or something along those lines.

They will talk their way out of it toss them some money and be done with the whole thing.

I hope something is done but I don't think Verizon is to blame. I think its mostly moto.

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Originally Posted by Ultrastigi

Verizon will just say that if they unlock it they will lose money because people get free apps and free data use. Or something along those lines.

They will talk their way out of it toss them some money and be done with the whole thing.

I hope something is done but I don't think Verizon is to blame. I think its mostly moto.

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the android market is free, and how can we get free data? :-/

Originally Posted by Ultrastigi

Verizon will just say that if they unlock it they will lose money because people get free apps and free data use. Or something along those lines.

They will talk their way out of it toss them some money and be done with the whole thing.

Which do you think is going to cost more money?

(1) Going through months of litigation with the FCC over a violation of some rules that were very clearly written.

(2) Allowing (a very vocal) 1-3% of their userbase to use their phones as they see fit.

It's a no-brainer. Telecoms pretty much do whatever they want to consumers until the FCC comes knocking, and then they act like little kids who get caught in the act. I'm fairly certain that if the FCC comes knocking on Verizon that they will fold quickly.

Not getting my hopes up.. By the time they go thru all the processes. I'm pretty certain all of us will all have different phones by then...

Originally Posted by djr4x4

Not getting my hopes up.. By the time they go thru all the processes. I'm pretty certain all of us will all have different phones by then...

yeah, non-moto types without the broken promises

Originally Posted by projektorboy

Which do you think is going to cost more money?

(1) Going through months of litigation with the FCC over a violation of some rules that were very clearly written.

(2) Allowing (a very vocal) 1-3% of their userbase to use their phones as they see fit.

It's a no-brainer. Telecoms pretty much do whatever they want to consumers until the FCC comes knocking, and then they act like little kids who get caught in the act. I'm fairly certain that if the FCC comes knocking on Verizon that they will fold quickly.

It will come down to a business decision. What does Verizon stand to lose? I can only think of two things:

1. Control over WiFi/USB tethering, giving them the ability to charge for it.
2. Revenue from bloatware.

Verizon will compare how much money they stand to lose from these two factors with what they project to pay from FCC investigation/litigation.

I was at CES last week and spoke with PR at the Motorola booth. She mentioned nothing about Verizon pushing back about the bootloader unlock. What she told me is that the FCC is holding up the process.

I then asked her why HTC was able to unlock most (if not all) of their phones. She told me that because HTC is a foreign-based company, they don't have as many hoops to go througt to make changes like that.

The PR lady said that Motorola is in active talks with the FCC to "Find a solution that works for everyone."

She also could have been blowing smoke up my a$$. Take from this what you want.