Originally Posted by Gasai Yuno
The code sellers do not use VZW's actual database. They use leaked ones. That's #1.
#2, bad ESN means the ESN (MEID) which is the CDMA ID of the phone (like IMEI for GSM) is blacklisted in VZW's database and cannot be activated within their network.
Please do tell me how exactly can you change the code in a phone that is lying down in a box in, say, Poland with no WiFi set up and no CDMA networks around.
I'm not insisting on that VZW changes codes in the phone. I said they might change codes in their DB. Consider this condition:
A phone is marked BAD ESN and not turned on on the network and somebody tries to UNLOCK it. And it will be successful. As I experienced with a BAD ESN one.
A phone is marked BAD ESN and accidentally turns on and tries to access VZW network (say on CDMA via USSD codes or WiFi) and a code is being sent to it to change UNLOCK CODE via a bootloader or ROM command. (There are many unlock methods for unlocking SAMSUNG devices via ROM). Furthermore, A Motorola staff told me VZW might change BAD ESN phones codes OTA! I experienced this condition too. And hope using Turbo SIM helps.
Originally Posted by hell.cu
common unlockers only have access to Motorola DB.. they have no access to Verizon Database.. So.. Verizon change the codes!!!!!
Yes. I've contacted 3 different code providers and they said that they are using Motorola DBs. Say Motorola DBs and VZW initial DBs.