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By jayharper08, Senior Moderator - The Troll Whisperer on 11th November 2011, 01:39 AM
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17th April 2012, 06:32 PM |#1441  
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Definitions from urbandictionary.com:

Troll:

One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

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A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.

So someone that asks for an ETA is automatically a troll because you guys find it provocative? Tecnically, the trolls are the ones that turn a simple questions into something its not by giving a provocative answer?
 
 
17th April 2012, 06:52 PM |#1442  
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So someone that asks for an ETA is automatically a troll because you guys find it provocative? Tecnically, the trolls are the ones that turn a simple questions into something its not by giving a provocative answer?

Imagine 30 different PMs asking you when your update will be done... its annoying... then on top of those the thread you created has multiple users asking also that haven't pmd you yet but they sure are thinking about doing it because they're too impatient and what everything fixed NAO! Doesn't work that way. Patience is a virtue.

Here's another point. Would you rather me as a developer push out an untested update that could mess everything up? Or would you rather have a quality tested build and or app that's been checked through?

Asking for ETAs on XDA has always been frowned upon. Always will be.

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See I'm getting heated just chatting about it

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Can I get an ETA on you cooling down?
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You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.
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You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.

Ahh but see my sadistic side takes over and wants to... that MattCrystal doesn't ignore much.

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You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.

The point is that adults shouldn't act like children. Especially on a tech forum, if you're not tech savvy enough to do it yourself or at least learn how, shut the **** up, period.
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You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.


Agreed but some people don't understand that psychology unless you tell them straight out to knock it off. Even though, sometimes even that doesn't work.
Asking for ETAs from developers is as rude as getting ripped a new one for asking.

I'm with you with the ignoring method though.
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You know what works more than flaming them when they ask, ignoring them. Let them ask all they want, just ignore it and you see how it stops.

People are like little kids. When they are being annoying as hell, and you ignore them, they will stop being annoying. If you give them attention by telling them to stop and not to do it, they will continue to do it.

It's all Psychology dude. Try it.

What works the best is teaching someone the way things should be done. Just like with children. You don't ignore an undesirable behavior with a child, you try to correct it, by explaining why they shouldn't do that behavior.

I don't flame people for asking for ETA's, i explain that they shouldn't.
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What works the best is teaching someone the way things should be done. Just like with children. You don't ignore an undesirable behavior with a child, you try to correct it, by explaining why they shouldn't do that behavior.

I don't flame people for asking for ETA's, i explain that they shouldn't.


Sometimes you gently explain why it's wrong to ask for ETAs and then they're like, "But I demand one NAO!!!" or the developer gives them one(which they shouldn't do) and if it's not done by that time, all hell breaks loose.

A bunch of trolls with pitchforks and torches, march angrily to the door of the developer and demand....

Wait a minute, I think I'm confusing this with the movie, Frankenstein.

Same idea though.
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Sometimes you gently explain why it's wrong to ask for ETAs and then they're like, "But I demand one NAO!!!" or the developer gives them one(which they shouldn't do) and if it's not done by that time, all hell breaks loose.

A bunch of trolls with pitchforks and torches, march angrily to the door of the developer and demand....

Wait a minute, I think I'm confusing this with the movie, Frankenstein.

Same idea though.

Lol should be a ETF fee for folks asking ETA
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