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18th April 2012, 10:26 AM |#131  
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Yes, it has, but they are in the hatch and docked to the phone. Really, the station (with phone) only has a 3.5mm audio I/O port and the dock connector, nothing else (besides power and volume buttons).

That's wrong - according to Asus themselves, the PadFone Station has:
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Sure, these are pass-through ports for the two that are on the phone itself, and are covered by little plastic flaps. I think that - like the TF101 - they're placed on the right-hand side of the tablet dock (with the screen facing you). Do you really think that Asus would design this thing and then get the ports so badly wrong?!
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That's one thing that really gets to me, no HDMI out from the tablet.

Yes there is!
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I guess when it's just the phone you could do it, but then it outputs at the lower resolution and you wouldn't be able to run tablet-optimized apps and also you wouldn't have USB or SD.

Reviews I've read seem to suggest that the tablet optimized (ICS!) apps will run quite happily on the docked PadFone. I'm guessing that there's some API that apps can use to tell if they're running on an ICS phone or tablet and refuse to run if they're for a tablet and you're using a phone.
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As a side note, I wonder if we could eventually use the tablet dock without the phone as a battery powered monitor for hdmi devices.

Very, very unlikely. AFAIK the dock is a dumb device so you'd need some form of electronics to drive it.
 
 
18th April 2012, 11:41 AM |#132  
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That's wrong - according to Asus themselves, the PadFone Station has:

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Micro-USB / Micro-HDMI <------------

Sure, these are pass-through ports for the two that are on the phone itself, and are covered by little plastic flaps.

Show me any video or photo depicting those!

I can show you a dozen videos debating every connector and every button on every side of the tablet. None of those show any HDMI or USB ports (besides the hatch).
18th April 2012, 12:15 PM |#133  
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I had it in my hands, the PadStation itself has NO HDMI out!
18th April 2012, 12:22 PM |#134  
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The wait is not over yet...

ASUS announced on their Facebook-Taiwan-Page, that the ASUS Padfone has some problems with performance and the material.

So they changed the release date from 4/20 to 5/11 cause they have to ship all the PadFones back to their factory.

This is very bad news, guess the European release will never make it to the end of May...

whaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt????
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18th April 2012, 12:32 PM |#135  
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Yes there is!

Watch all the hands-on videos and then show me a single one where it has HDMI out on the tablet dock... Phone has HDMI out, tablet has HDMI in. That's it.
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Not trying to deny or dispute what anyone is saying here, but......

Does Asus really expect us to charge these devices with different connectors? If there is only the docking port and the headphone port available externally on the tablet station, it will seem silly to maintain different connectors to charge the batteries in each of these devices. Just for simplicity sake, I hope that they, at the very least, include the USB port for charging.
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Not trying to deny or dispute what anyone is saying here, but......

Does Asus really expect us to charge these devices with different connectors? If there is only the docking port and the headphone port available externally on the tablet station, it will seem silly to maintain different connectors to charge the batteries in each of these devices. Just for simplicity sake, I hope that they, at the very least, include the USB port for charging.

there's a charge port is on the tablet, it's not usb so yeah I see what you're saying. I have a sneaky suspicion there'll be a charger for the keyboard, another for the tablet and another for the phone.... pretty stupid if you ask me but I see no other way. They already claimed a charge port on the tablet and ac on the keyboard.... and phone has it's own. I guess it's precautionary but up to you how you do that. at most you'd use the laptop to charge everything.

for me I'd keep keyboard dock/phone charger at home and tablet charger at work. I kinda like that thought. "just in case"

I'm sure there'll be something, if not, just use wifi for clones. sure someone can make software to upscale.
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18th April 2012, 10:25 PM |#139  
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If the keyboard dock is the same as the transformer one, the charging lead for that is the same as the connector to the tablet, so you can use the same lead for both. Or you can plug them together and charge them as one through the keyboard dock.

I'm guessing they'll provide one USB-dock cable, one USB-microUSB cable and one AC-USB plug.
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My thought as well that you could charge the phone + pad from the pad itself, can't ya? coz logically when u charge your pad, your pad charge your phone, so it still make sense aight?
19th April 2012, 09:46 AM |#141  
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Show me any video or photo depicting those! I can show you a dozen videos debating every connector and every button on every side of the tablet. None of those show any HDMI or USB ports (besides the hatch).

I've yet to see any video that does anything other than dock the phone and talk about the difference between tablet mode and phone mode. As to photo's there's quite a few different designs out there - e.g. there's one set (which I think was a prototype shot) which clearly shows a MicroUSB under the headphone out.

I think the basic problem stems from the confusing way that Asus is giving out specs. E.g. the specs in the MWC2012 press kit make no mention of the MicroHDMI output on the phone that's clearly visible on photos.

So a lot of folks (me included) have taken the statement that it's got USB and HDMI ports on the station to mean pass through ports, when in fact (as you're stating) what they're actually referring to is the USB+HDMI combo that's in the "pocket" of the tablet which are dedicated to docking the phone. The smart move is, of course, to wait and see. I for one will be a little disappointed if the Station doesn't have that HDMI-out.

The other thing that's worrying me is the confusion whether an existing TF101 keyboard dock will work with the Station or not. I've seen a couple of reports that Asus were intending to do that, but then discovered that the extra weight of the PadFone itself meant that a heavier keyboard dock was needed to prevent the combination tipping over. I've even seen one author claim that while the PadFone's keyboard dock will work with the TF101's tablet, you can't go the other way. Again, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what transpires.
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Watch all the hands-on videos and then show me a single one where it has HDMI out on the tablet dock... Phone has HDMI out, tablet has HDMI in. That's it.

See above.

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