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20th April 2012, 09:13 PM   |  #1  
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Need to brush up on my vocabulary. :P

-odin
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Best tutorial for custom recovery?

Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.

Coming from an htc evo 3d.

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Need to brush up on my vocabulary. :P

-odin
-modem

Best tutorial for custom recovery?

Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.

Coming from an htc evo 3d.

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Brush up on vocabulary by reading everything in the forums here .... El29 is the last GB ota .... Please read and really understand before doing anything like flashing ics on the phone or you will run a good chance of bricking ....have fun learning and be safe this is nothing like a HTC

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Brush up on vocabulary by reading everything in the forums here .... El29 is the last GB ota .... Please read and really understand before doing anything like flashing ics on the phone or you will run a good chance of bricking ....have fun learning and be safe this is nothing like a HTC

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Haha. I noticed.

Figured someone could explain what the odin and modem was tho.

Ill poke around.

And try not to brick. I have a usb jig on the way. So im not crazy worried.

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20th April 2012, 11:11 PM   |  #4  
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Need to brush up on my vocabulary. :P

-odin
-modem

Best tutorial for custom recovery?

Currently stock rooted. EL29? Idk what that means either.

Coming from an htc evo 3d.

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Odin is a program used to flash recoveries/kernels, roms (usually just stock roms), and modems. There's an open source alternative called Heimdall that works well too. you can purchase Mobile Odin from the Play Store if you want to flash kernels directly from your phone. This makes it convenient when you cant or dont feel like using Odin on your computer to flash a new recovery onto your phone. ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS. Odin/Heimdall DO NOT flash .zip files. They only flash .tar files (kernels/roms) and .bin files (modems). Again, ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.

Modem is the radio. Kernel versions dont have to match the modem version. You can be on kernel EL29 but still have a modem of FD16, and vise versa. Some people have better luck with the latest modems, some people have better luck with older modems. Your mileage may vary.

As for recoveries, they are always (always) packaged and flashed with a kernel. This is how Samsung does business (at least on most of their phones). Some kernels include a custom recovery, others dont. As of now, no ICS kernel comes with a custom recovery (actually this statement might not be accurate now that i think about it). Whenever you flash an ICS rom (which comes prepackaged with a kernel), you will always lose your recovery. No bigs, just Odin a kernel (ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.) that includes a custom recovery (the most popular one is EL26 with CMW [search for it]). Most roms you encounter will be flashed through Recovery. If it's a .zip file, it's flashed in Recovery.

"Currently stock rooted" means you're on a stock rom that's rooted.

"EL29" most likely refers to the kernel that is packaged in the rom, but it can refer to your modem version too. The first letter represents the year; the second letter represents the month; the number represents the date of the month the kernel/modem was built.

E = year (2011)
L = month (December)
29 = date (29th, hurrrrrr)

So if someone's modem is FD19, that means:

F = 2012
D = April
19 = 19th

All ICS kernels begin with F because all ICS kernels were leaked/released in 2012. All GB kernels begin with E because they were all released in 2011.

The last stock rom/OTA released by Samsung was EL29. There have been some Samsung ICS leaks however; they range from FB## - FD##.
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Odin is a program used to flash recoveries/kernels, roms, and modems. There's an open source alternative called Heimdall that works well too. you can purchase Mobile Odin from the Play Store if you want to flash kernels directly from your phone. This makes it convenient when you cant or dont feel like using Odin on your computer to flash a new recovery onto your phone. ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS. Odin/Heimdall DO NOT flash .zip files. They only flash .tar files (kernels/roms) and .bin files (modems). Again, ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR RECOVERIES/KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.

Modem is the radio. Kernel versions dont have to match the modem version. You can be on kernel EL29 but still have a modem of FD16, and vise versa. Some people have better luck with the latest modems, some people have better luck with older modems. Your mileage may vary.

As for recoveries, they are always (always) packaged and flashed with a kernel. This is how Samsung does business (at least on most of their phones). Some kernels include a custom recovery, others dont. As of now, no ICS kernel comes with a custom recovery (actually this statement might not be accurate now that i think about it). Whenever you flash an ICS rom (which comes prepackaged with a kernel), you will always lose your recovery. No bigs, just Odin a kernel (ALWAYS USE **PDA** SLOT FOR KERNELS/ROMS. ALWAYS USE **PHONE** SLOT FOR MODEMS.) that includes a custom recovery (the most popular one is EL26 with CMW [search for it]).

"Currently stock rooted" means you're on a stock rom that's rooted.

"EL29" most likely refers to the kernel that is packaged in the rom, but it can refer to your modem version too. The first letter represents the year; the second letter represents the month; the number represents the date of the month the kernel/modem was built.

E = year (2011)
L = month (December)
29 = date (29th, hurrrrrr)

So if someone's modem is FD19, that means:

F = 2012
D = April
19 = 19th

All ICS kernels begin with F because all ICS kernels were leaked/released in 2012. All GB kernels begin with E because they were all released in 2011.

The last stock rom/OTA released by Samsung was EL29. There have been some Samsung ICS leaks however; they range from FB## - FD##.

K sweet. Very informative.

Not a noob by any means.

But new phone in all. Just trying to learn all the stuff.

Htc is much different. Thanks alot.

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21st April 2012, 12:22 AM   |  #6  
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Ok. So if I want to flash Calkulin's rom. Download the rom and radio. Use odin (mobile odin) to flash them.

What about recovery? I didnt see it mentioned.

EDIT: I see it says I need custom recovery to flash. So would I just odin a kernel that has recovery already?

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Ok. So if I want to flash Calkulin's rom. Download the rom and radio. Use odin (mobile odin) to flash them.

What about recovery? I didnt see it mentioned.

EDIT: I see it says I need custom recovery to flash. So would I just odin a kernel that has recovery already?

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Both roms tell you what recovery they come with, and tells you that you need to flash them through recovery.

Edit: Yep, just Odin a kernel that has a custom recovery.
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So rogue kernel. Would that be the rogue recovery?

So which kernel should I use to odin on just stock EL29 that has recovery?

EDIT: Or....the kernel (with recovery) and rom pack into the zip?

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So rogue kernel. Would that be the rogue recovery?

So which kernel should I use to odin on just stock EL29 that has recovery?

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Yep, they come with Rogue Recovery. You can Odin EL26 with CWM and that will give you CWM so that you can flash those ROMs.
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Yep, they come with Rogue Recovery. You can Odin EL26 with CWM and that will give you CWM so that you can flash those ROMs.

K sweet. Almost got this figured out. Haha.

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