Originally Posted by Mischaseb

The Pebble has just been updated to include Bluetooth 4. They say battery life might be marginally better, but that its more in there for use with accessories.

Bluetooth 4.0 saves a lot of battery compared to the other standards. It's supposed to, luckily HOX has bluetooth 4.0 along with iPhone and upcoming SGS 3.

Pebble looks really good, I want one....they're sold out right now though

Originally Posted by Mischaseb

The Pebble has just been updated to include Bluetooth 4. They say battery life might be marginally better, but that its more in there for use with accessories.

If they claim its only "marginally" better, they are not doing it right. Probably they are not using BLE and just "main" flavour of BT 4.0 - that would make sense with easy firmware-only update, without transceiver change.
At present, Casio has japan-only model of GShock smartwatch (GB-6900), which supports BLE. This watch lasts more than a year on battery (with 12-hour-a-day BT connection). I would call this more than "marginally" better battery life.

Originally Posted by Ingvarr

If they claim its only "marginally" better, they are not doing it right.

We are lead to believe they have a dual-mode chip, and a dual mode chip does not get anywhere near the same current consumption saving as a single mode chip.

Originally Posted by Ingvarr

At present, Casio has japan-only model of GShock smartwatch (GB-6900), which supports BLE. This watch lasts more than a year on battery (with 12-hour-a-day BT connection). I would call this more than "marginally" better battery life.

Casio are using a single-mode chip, hence Yes they get much lower current consumption.

*shrugs* maybe. Does not matter much to me anyway.

I'll wait for a watch you don't have to charge semi-weekly. Initially I thought its not a big deal, but it turned out to be annoying (I used SonyEricsson MBW before).
I'd get this GShock, but I just don't like the design.

Hopefully pebble will do proper BLE watch in the future, given this one is such a success. It would be smashing if they could do a solar-charged one (which becomes viable when power consumption drops enough to allow about 2 years of battery life). I have Citizen EcoDrive and it's very convenient.

Originally Posted by hardmaninc

I got this off ebay for £30 as offered him that for it , what you guys think


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=290700842678

It's the old version which has connection droppings all the time.
You should cancel your order,because he writes "SmartWatch" in the auction and the old one is just Liveview and not SmartWatch.
He definitely tries to trick thepeople with the SmartWatch sign.
Really, try to cancel your order,
I have the Liveview and it's baaaaad!

Originally Posted by hardmaninc

oh well is it that crap for £30 ?

It's so bad that Play.com sell it for £20 new with free delivery

As stated here, the Sony LiveView watch sucks big time.. Tried severel guides to fix the connection, and even with automate it set to connect, it still needed confirmation!

But their new watch, Sony SmartWatch, is superb! No connection errors, and no need for confirmation each time you get back in range..
The watch it self is also way better, the quality is improved, and the looks is better for a watch. The screen is pretty responsive, and scrolling through widgets is really cool to do on your wrist! I liked the concept of the LiveView, but I think it failed.. If anyone had it, I can confirm that the SmartWatch doesn't fall off your wrist like the old one. The strap is better suited for a watch!

I donno , I've checked out on Sonymobile's official website it said that Smartwatch 2 are Compatible with (Other Brands) HTC Desire S, HTC Sensation, HTC Wildfire, HTC Wildfire S, Motorola Defy, Motorola Droid 2/Milestone 2, Motorola RAZR, Orange San Fransisco, Samsung Galaxy 5, Samsung Galaxy Ace, Samsung Galaxy Fit, Samsung Galaxy Gio, Samsung Galaxy Mini, Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Galaxy SL. One X are not on the List.

Originally Posted by travisstryker

I donno , I've checked out on Sonymobile's official website it said that Smartwatch 2 are Compatible with (Other Brands) HTC Desire S, HTC Sensation, HTC Wildfire, HTC Wildfire S, Motorola Defy, Motorola Droid 2/Milestone 2, Motorola RAZR, Orange San Fransisco, Samsung Galaxy 5, Samsung Galaxy Ace, Samsung Galaxy Fit, Samsung Galaxy Gio, Samsung Galaxy Mini, Samsung Galaxy S II and Samsung Galaxy SL. One X are not on the List.

Should be compatible, a few users here already using it with their HOX. Just Sony never update it on their website. Their priority is users of their phone, not other phone brands.

hi look at www.metawatch.org i thing it is the best now for android there is big support on metaeatch forum look here http://blog.grapefruitopia.com/post/...er-rm-overview