Should I go back to S-ON to OTA ICS a Bell Raider?

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I know I have to relock bootloader, back to stock RUU, but what about Son Soff stuff? Thank you people!

Sent from my HTC PH39100 using xda premium.

I know I need to know as well I want the bell radios back .also if I want to keep them at a later the for a new from do I transfer over the system folder ?

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But s-off is only so you can flash stuff through recovery and not fast boot .and some devices came s-off from factory . What I'm iffy about as well is do I run the ruu from bell again that's gingerbread then do the ota ? Because h-boot I thought couldn't be downgraded ? I hope a dev sees this .I hate People having to put up with All the echoing in the phone calls

With stock Bell ics ota, it does not feedback anymore with phonecalls

Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.

Originally Posted by ideaLduK

With stock Bell ics ota, it does not feedback anymore with phonecalls

Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.

So you did go back to S-ON before you OTA updated to ICS? (too much jargon )

Did you unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery after? Did you install the other kernel from the supertool and did you get root?

Originally Posted by mohcho

So you did go back to S-ON before you OTA updated to ICS? (too much jargon )

Did you unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery after? Did you install the other kernel from the supertool and did you get root?

I havent S-ON prior to do this, it worked perfectly. I only relocked BL with fastboot oem lock then RUUed then OTAed. After that I reunlocked BL and, flashed twrp recovery and flashed my rom (already rooted )

Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.

So it seems when you flashed a custom rom, it's the rom that gives you root access?

I'm on the stock OTA but can't get root. Should I flash another kernel?

I don't necessarily want to run a custom rom but want root.

Originally Posted by mohcho

So it seems when you flashed a custom rom, it's the rom that gives you root access?

I'm on the stock OTA but can't get root. Should I flash another kernel?

I don't necessarily want to run a custom rom but want root.

If i was you and i wanted to get root, id do it manually instead of doing it via supertool. Look in the stickies of the dev subforum to get the procedure. Otherwise PM me maybe i can help you

Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.

IF YOU ARE S-ON UNLOCKED: FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER, THEN RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.

IF YOU ARE S-OFF: RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.

Yes, caps is necessary. S-OFF is convenient in many ways.

Originally Posted by Hunt3r.j2

IF YOU ARE S-ON UNLOCKED: FLASH THE STOCK RECOVERY AND RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER, THEN RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.

IF YOU ARE S-OFF: RUN THE RUU IN FASTBOOT.

Yes, caps is necessary. S-OFF is convenient in many ways.

Totally agree with that. Otherwise, your phone could be transformed into a BRICK.

*warning* noob content!

I used the Vivid_All-In-One_Kit_v1.2 to unlock, root, and install the clockwork recovery.

The OTA ICS update fails - it just goes into fastboot and that's it.

So I'm guessing I need to install the original recovery?
I tried finding that, but have been unsuccessful, any help provided is welcome.

Do I also need to apply the stock RUU? Where do I find that one?
On my old Legend HTC support actually supplied me with the stock RUU.....