Intel Atom

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Hi i like this website

i have a question for the CPU on htc shift

is possible to change my intel GMA 950 CPU to the new Intel Aton??
the intel atom is very good for the shift. this can make the battery life for 2 hour to 4 hour.
800mhz to 1.6 ghz

thx

Hi, I like the question

Actually it made me laught so much I'm going to answer.

No, you cannot change the graphic chip for a new processor. You would have no screen displaying nice lines and windows.

If you mean changing the processor by an Atom, this is not possible at all.

About getting twice the battery time, I think atom CPU don't get this anyway, so you should better look for an extended battery.

Becareful what we wish for

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Originally Posted by thaihugo

Hi, I like the question

Actually it made me laught so much I'm going to answer.

No, you cannot change the graphic chip for a new processor. You would have no screen displaying nice lines and windows.

If you mean changing the processor by an Atom, this is not possible at all.

About getting twice the battery time, I think atom CPU don't get this anyway, so you should better look for an extended battery.

Bro, Intel GMA is NOT totally a Graphic Card, it is North Bridge Chipset that Control CPU, Video (PCIe or AGP), and RAM, but in this case most of Value Chipset Intel has an onboard Graphic Card

Some Notebook Value are having Graphic Card embedded in the NorthBridge Chipset, but performance Notebook do not have that, most of it are used NVidia or ATI as their VGA Card separated from NorthBridge Chipsets to gain more speed on Vector/Poygon/OpenGL/DirectX/etc

To learn more about intel 945GM, follow this link
http://www.intel.com/products/notebo...m-overview.htm

http://forum.xda-developers.com/atta...1&d=1221760371

Processor Upgrade are depend to NorthBridge Chipset Compatibility
North Brodge Chipset of our SHIFT are very compatible to new processor, but perhaps the BIOS should have to be rewrite OR NOT, to understand the multiply factor and front side bus of the new CPU

this is Sony UX 280 being upgrade to Core2Duo
http://micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4641

they said that the battery life got no change at all

but the process for upgrading the CPU is as complicated as HTC universal doing the RAM upgrade, except if the slot for the CPU is using ZIF (zero insertion force) like the one that we have in our desktop motherboard

hope somebody is DARE enough to do like those guys in MicroPCTalk

In my opinion, Chipset of SHIFT do have good compatibility because it was 945series, by theory it can achieve compatibility to CoreDuo, but depend on CPU formfactor

Speed for the Processor does not imply the battery life significantly, cause most of the mobile CPU is ULV (ultra low voltage), and have the Intel Speedstep technology, that can drop down the multiplier if not being used extensively

Atom 330

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ok, the initial question was not very accurate, but let's try to stick back to the topic...
Does anybody knows if there is a chance to replace stock Shift CPU with new dual core Intel Atom 330?
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/20...ng-from-intel/

processors fit on sockets

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BGA stands for the Ball Grid Array, cause this kind processor use soldered balls instead of pins to have a contact with the motherboard.
As i know the BGA CPU used on our shift is the Intel A110 Stealey 800Mhz with 663 BGA.
I'm searching for quite a while now, and i don't see something that fits 663...

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/309219.pdf

Ctrl+f opens find.
Type a110, and you will get the answer you want...
945GU Express chipset, was designed for a100 and a110 processors.
You have to dig deeper on this, i guess.

regards.

Originally Posted by zebra.belka

ok, the initial question was not very accurate, but let's try to stick back to the topic...
Does anybody knows if there is a chance to replace stock Shift CPU with new dual core Intel Atom 330?
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/09/20...ng-from-intel/

Almost certainly not I'm afraid. The chipset and bios likely don't support the Atom and probably never will.

In addition, it I don't think you'd see that much of an improvement in battery life even if it were possible. Look at the MSI Wind - it barely makes 2 hours on 3 cell battery.

Regards,

Dave

Originally Posted by foxmeister

Almost certainly not I'm afraid. The chipset and bios likely don't support the Atom and probably never will.

Dave, am I right to say that our Shift got Atom A110 inside? So BIOS will probably get it, the only issue is to find something that would fit motherboard with 663 BGA.

Originally Posted by zebra.belka

Dave, am I right to say that our Shift got Atom A110 inside? So BIOS will probably get it, the only issue is to find something that would fit motherboard with 663 BGA.

No - the A110 Stealey processor is *not* an Atom

http://www.umpc.com/index.php?option...id=7&Itemid=31

They are based on quite different architectures which leads me to believe they would not be drop in compatible in the Shift.

Regards,

Dave

nobody saw that i guess ...

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Originally Posted by vulcan_gr

BGA stands for the Ball Grid Array, cause this kind processor use soldered balls instead of pins to have a contact with the motherboard.
As i know the BGA CPU used on our shift is the Intel A110 Stealey 800Mhz with 663 BGA.
I'm searching for quite a while now, and i don't see something that fits 663...

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/309219.pdf

Ctrl+f opens find.
Type a110, and you will get the answer you want...
945GU Express chipset, was designed for a100 and a110 processors.
You have to dig deeper on this, i guess.

regards.

Talking about Atom install in the shift, is talking about fitting a 45nm processor, into a 90nm socket... it just wont fit...
Different structure. Different Philosophy.
The Stealy's are not even mentioned on intels web page...
They are called A100 and A110 and there was no more evolution on the 663 BGA.
The Atom processor has μFC-BGA 479 or 478 socket...
Smaller chip... newer technology.

{The good thing if you install an atom on your shift is that you will have a lot of spare balls
(and do not try to turn it on ... if you wana keep the rest of your remaining balls ... lol )
}

regards.

Why it has to be an Atom

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Why ???
we have so much more option open here, IF you are dare enough to change the CPU
because this Intel 800MHz are very poor quality, perhaps we can look over to CoreDuo