[Q] HTC Bravo / Desire Hangs with Red Circle Screen (T-MOB101)

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first things first: sorry for the same topic (loads here, but none helps / maybe i can't find the exact problem)

my phone hangs, recovery did not work, so i am on my own repair journey.
it's been two days but it is not a problem. too many guides (confused, read bortak's too, not sure which one works for my problem)

so maybe i need to settle it with a post.

first, the specs.
here is what i got via left button + power button on reboot.

--alpharev--
bravo pvt3 ship s-off (done by me via revolutionary)
hboot-6.93.1002
microp 0514
touch panel ...
radio 5.11.05.27
aug 10 2010

the phone comes with 4gb microsd

what i am trying to achieve first
-a working htc desire with stock android
-CCID is T-MOB101 (via fastboot devices, adb devices not listing anything) (RUU_Bravo_Froyo_TMO_UK_2.12.110.4_R_Radio_32.49.0 0.32U_5.11.05.27_release_157560_signed)

what next (if i can get past the above)
- root the phone with unrevoked3
- install any custom rom

the process
- remove sim card and memory card from phone (OK)
- restart phone via left + power button
- connect the phone via fastboot usb (OK)
- enter few commands (OK):
fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader
fastboot erase cache
- run RUU of image above. (OK)
- the phone reboots; and there is a red circle screen (FAILED, stuck at there)

i- so what am i doing wrong?
ii- once, i manage to complete successful boot, but once i tried to root via unrevoked (is this necessary for custom roms?), it failed again at the second reboot, with the red circle screen again. and now i can't get past the RUU.

any ideas? what is actually the problem?

i manage to turn it s-on via alpharev downgrader.
run the RUU again.

still red circle on boot up.

-update-

i-tried step 7 based on bortak (PB image on microsd) - SUCCESS

ii-tried to s-off and root via revolutionary.io - FAILED, stuck on red circle again.
*ttp://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/439627-guide-s-off-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-windows-published-4th-november-2011- a.html

iii- redo (i) - SUCCESS

how do I root? failed attempt using unrevoked + revolutionary.io previously.

any other methods?

Originally Posted by aidwiz

-update-

i-tried step 7 based on bortak (PB image on microsd) - SUCCESS

ii-tried to s-off and root via revolutionary.io - FAILED, stuck on red circle again.
*ttp://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/439627-guide-s-off-root-htc-desire-revolutionary-windows-published-4th-november-2011- a.html

iii- redo (i) - SUCCESS

how do I root? failed attempt using unrevoked + revolutionary.io previously.

any other methods?

that guide covers how to root after revolutionary...

also read all of the instructions that go with revolutionary, you'll find out how to do it there

however if you want to install custom rom at this point, you don't actually need to root.

you are s-off with custom recovery. so you can already:
- boot into recovery
- nandroid backup your current setup
- full wipe
- flash rom of choice (check specific hboot requirements and sd-ext partitions for each rom)

you only need to root your current rom if you have apps and data you wish to backup and transfer them to new rom using something like titanium backup. make sure all your contacts are backed up to google, and sms with something like 'sms backup and restore'

succeess! thanks man.

i am confused with the need for s-off and root.
so that means i don't have to root to install a mod if i have already s-off!

used revolutionary to s-off + recovery (via revolutionary) - success!
used recovery clockwordmod to nandroid backup, wipe cache and install oxygen mod - success !

i am really happy!

Originally Posted by aidwiz

succeess! thanks man.

i am confused with the need for s-off and root.
so that means i don't have to root to install a mod if i have already s-off!

used revolutionary to s-off + recovery (via revolutionary) - success!
used recovery clockwordmod to nandroid backup, wipe cache and install oxygen mod - success !

i am really happy!

glad you got it done, but no offence sounds like it would help to do a little more reading before you start flashing away.

root and s-off are subtly different, i would explain but bortak has recently done it again here

i also recommend reading all the guides here, should help your understanding of terminologies, procedures, sd partitions, hboots, memory stuff etc.

also when i said full wipe i meant the 'wipe data/factory reset' option as a minimum within recovery. wipe cache is something else. if you only wiped cache you'll likely start to get a lot of errors where bits of system from old rom and new rom get mixed up...