Originally Posted by arrrghhh

lol, at this point NAND is better than HaRET. Not sure why people still have reservations about it... IMHO it does run better, and with ACL's battery driver you pretty much get WinMo-like charging & battery drain stats. It's pretty incredible in fact...

I guess the setup is a little more daunting, but once you get the hang of it, just like any other flashing process. Then once CWM is on there, you can flash any of the ROM's here. It's a beautiful thing!

Edit - Regardless of all that jibba jabba, this build needs some love. That cursor has got to go. walter79 said there were kernel changes necessary, which makes me think we'll have to run an ICS-specific kernel. Suck...

Absolutely concede that NAND is better than HaRET. However, if you've never borked a flash on a device (any device) and toasted it in the process, then you just haven't been in the game long enough. I'm not slagging on you at all (in fact, I have the utmost respect for what you're doing here!) - but just keep in mind that we're all in different positions. For me, my Rhod is my daily device (including alarm clock!), and my contract with Sprint is expired. So if I bork it, it's a non-trivial expenditure to undo my handywork. Ergo I prefer HaRET.

But as you say, we're way OT (my apologies to OP for that), so no more jibba jabba.

Originally Posted by pfc_m_drake

Absolutely concede that NAND is better than HaRET. However, if you've never borked a flash on a device (any device) and toasted it in the process, then you just haven't been in the game long enough. I'm not slagging on you at all (in fact, I have the utmost respect for what you're doing here!) - but just keep in mind that we're all in different positions. For me, my Rhod is my daily device (including alarm clock!), and my contract with Sprint is expired. So if I bork it, it's a non-trivial expenditure to undo my handywork. Ergo I prefer HaRET.

But as you say, we're way OT (my apologies to OP for that), so no more jibba jabba.

we can try to make a haret build. make a nandroid backup of nand ics l. convert it to ext2 and boot it with haret and latest rootfs for xandroid.

Originally Posted by arrrghhh

Edit - Regardless of all that jibba jabba, this build needs some love. That cursor has got to go. walter79 said there were kernel changes necessary, which makes me think we'll have to run an ICS-specific kernel. Suck...

No kernel changes necessary.

At least not on this looped build I am trying out, but I guess looped builds aren't fashionable.

Originally Posted by detule

No kernel changes necessary.

At least not on this looped build I am trying out, but I guess looped builds aren't fashionable.

Orly?

Others sound interested in a HaRET version of this, please do share.

Originally Posted by arrrghhh

Orly?

Others sound interested in a HaRET version of this, please do share.

I'm definitely interested in a HaRet version. I still need to go back and forth between WinMo and Android so a SD version would allow me to do this much easier.

Originally Posted by arrrghhh

Orly?

Others sound interested in a HaRET version of this, please do share.

Sure, if and when we can get some basic functionality together (audio, data) we can have people try it out. Though without gposit, it won't be much fun, so someone needs to sweet-talk jonpry into getting back to ics.

Good news.

Found a fix for touchscreen problems.

Copy attached file: link



And delete /system/usr/idc/msm-touchscreen.idc

thanks to detule

Awsome find!

Originally Posted by CodaHighland

Yes, that's my point. You're confusing RAM with storage. NAND is not RAM; it's more like a solid-state disk. You don't use swap to get more disk space. You use swap to get more RAM -- you get the ability to have more programs running at once, not the ability to have more programs installed at once.

Facebook, Voice, and Maps aren't using ANY RAM at all unless they're running. Moving them to SD gains you storage space, not RAM.

If the ROM won't let you move them to SD, then you need to find a way to uninstall them, and then reinstall them from the market -- then you'll be able to move them to SD. I've not used this ROM but I've found that the following steps work to uninstall "system" apps on GBX:

(1) adb root
(2) adb remount
(3) adb shell
(4) cd /system/app/
(5) Delete the .apk(s) for the app(s) you want to uninstall.
(6) Use "pm list packages" to find the name of the package you want to remove.
(7) pm uninstall name.of.the.package

Don't be stupid here; don't remove anything you aren't 100% positive about, or you might find unexpected things stop working. But for me, I removed Google Talk (I use imo), Voice Dialer (it doesn't work consistently anyway), geniewidget (news and weather, I don't use it), Google Books (crashes on startup for me), and Protips (who actually uses this widget?).

Edit: How big is the RHOD's NAND, anyway?

Edit 2: Also, Angry Birds doesn't work because the CPU and GPU aren't powerful enough, not because the device doesn't have enough free memory. Draw Something, on the other hand, IS RAM-bound.

ok in case i would like to "You use swap to get more RAM" how would could i go about doing that? sorry ive been outta town for a few days (slow to reply) here. im using OMGB (not related to this rom) and the "ROM" deleting most of the apps i dont use/need 46.7mb before flash. i wish that i could have at least 150mb free in ram. but i was thinking if we got our/any phone to tinker w/ram then we could use just about any size rom and ICS should run like butter! does that make since?

Originally Posted by Slipdoozy

ok in case i would like to "You use swap to get more RAM" how would could i go about doing that? sorry ive been outta town for a few days (slow to reply) here. im using OMGB (not related to this rom) and the "ROM" deleting most of the apps i dont use/need 46.7mb before flash. i wish that i could have at least 150mb free in ram. but i was thinking if we got our/any phone to tinker w/ram then we could use just about any size rom and ICS should run like butter! does that make since?

When only starting with ~170mb of RAM, I seriously doubt you're ever going to reach 150mb free lol.

I know the TP2 lists 288mb, but some is reserved for SPL and graphics... Probably some other things I'm missing. IIRC Android only has ~170mb avail. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here...