Pretty sure there is absolutely nothing in my post that says it will increase your battery life.
Second, wiping the stats, and then letting your phone drain all the way down will give you a very accurate look at what is draining your battery
Third, how is the app a myth? You can download it in the market, it's real...and it does exactly what it says it does...deletes the battery stats
Fourth, it has been proven that fully charging, fully discharging, then fully charging again is not only good for your battery, it is highly recommended by anyone and everyone at least once a month
So, I'm thinking you should jump off your little soap box and make sure you actually read what is being posted before you try to tear it apart...Before anyone goes and spend money on a brand new battery, they should do some accurate researching about what is using power on their phone....could be a crazy app...could be low network signal, could be the kernel (which btw jco23 has found that the 0504 kernel is much more battery efficient than the other available kernels) etc...
Oh and btw...i used to get some random fluctuations in battery levels when i first flashed tweaked...i wiped my battery stats, cache and dalvik and everything calm down and no longer did my battery jump down oddly
Completely discharging Li-ion batteries is not the best idea, even just on a monthly basis. And in my experience, charging the battery completely clears out the batterystats file every time so there's no need to use an app to do it.
Kernels are by far the biggest potential battery drain other than partial wakelocks and the stock FP1 kernel has given me phenomenal battery life and I prefer the way FP1 handles multitasking and memory management versus the method implemented in the 0524 PBJT kernel. I also freeze all the services that I have no need for like anything DRM-related, SDM, syncmlsvc, etc.
Pretty sure there is absolutely nothing in my post that says it will increase your battery life.
Second, wiping the stats, and then letting your phone drain all the way down will give you a very accurate look at what is draining your battery
Third, how is the app a myth? You can download it in the market, it's real...and it does exactly what it says it does...deletes the battery stats
Fourth, it has been proven that fully charging, fully discharging, then fully charging again is not only good for your battery, it is highly recommended by anyone and everyone at least once a month
So, I'm thinking you should jump off your little soap box and make sure you actually read what is being posted before you try to tear it apart...Before anyone goes and spend money on a brand new battery, they should do some accurate researching about what is using power on their phone....could be a crazy app...could be low network signal, could be the kernel (which btw jco23 has found that the 0504 kernel is much more battery efficient than the other available kernels) etc...
Oh and btw...i used to get some random fluctuations in battery levels when i first flashed tweaked...i wiped my battery stats, cache and dalvik and everything calm down and no longer did my battery jump down oddly
Maybe you need to do some research yourself. Figuring out what is using battery is a good idea, but all you need to do that is Better Battery Stats (search XDA for a free version). If you read Dianne Hackborn's post that Falcyn linked above, she very clearly debunks your second point. As nimsology said, the stats are wiped by the OS every time you fully charge your battery (and you can prove this for yourself just by watching the filesystem). All they do is track the stats needed to display your battery use stats in settings. They have nothing to do with the calibration of your battery or the display of the percentages. The app is a myth in the same way that wiping your battery stats is...it does nothing useful whatsoever. It just deletes the same file that the phone deletes itself on a regular basis.
LiIon batteries work best when you just use them noramlly. Full charge/discharge cycles are actually bad for them in the long run. Keeping them cool is actually more important than anything else, which is why they have temp sensors and overheat protection circuits. The only time you should purposefully drain them is when you are storing them for long periods of time, and even then, you shouldn't fully drain them because fully discharging in storage will kill the battery completely.
ATK can cause problems...it works against the built in task killer. Autokiller just tweaks the built in low memory killer.
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There seems to be something about the Droid Charge that just isn't quite right. No matter what I try (and I've tried all sorts of things from these and other forums!) it just won't stay long-term stable. No matter what I do, eventually the Android System process, running com.android.providers.security and com.android.providers.settings, takes up enough CPU (25%+) and enough memory to make the phone lag. Once it gets bad enough, the phone will either hot boot or freeze, requiring a reboot.
I believe that a great deal of the lag is coming from the memory manager, especially on phones where the users have installed more services than can stay in memory simultaneously (as I have.) I've experimented with a number of OOM kill thresholds using Auto Memory Manger, and so far 12,18,24,46,62,78 has served me best.
I've also been swimming against the "prevent hot boots" trend of upping the VM Heap Size limit above 64MB. In my experience, the hot boots are happening when the memory manager gets stuck badly enough that it has to kill the Android System process. This is annoying if it happens when I'm trying to use the phone, but it's actually a good thing in the long run, because after the hot boot the phone loses most of its lag, and Android System drops to more like 10% of CPU use. I've actually found that cranking the heap down has led to better performance and less lagginess. I've gotten it down to 32MB without any serious stability issues. 24MB and 28MB were both apparently too small, as the phone behaved erratically at these settings and many apps, including my Go Launcher EX, were crash-looping fairly quickly.
For reference, I'm now running Tweaked 2.1 with the imnuts 0524 PBJ Kernel, 48MB VM Heap, 1.2GHz, default voltages, smartassV2 scheduler, bfq IO scheduler, and the zipalign, CFS, and siyah tweaks from tweaktools. I've also been playing with renice levels.
Thank you both.
When I first installed Autokiller Memory Optimizer (and uninstalled ATK), I set it to Extreme setting but it caused Go Launcher to repaint more often than I can endure. Now I've been using your setting (12,18,24,46,62,78) for nearly a day since the last time I rebooted, and it's been smooth and zippy! I'll try it for at least 3 days before attempting to reboot, which is probably going to be too tempting to do; good or bad, it's become an old habit of mine. lol
Maybe you need to do some research yourself. Figuring out what is using battery is a good idea, but all you need to do that is Better Battery Stats (search XDA for a free version). If you read Dianne Hackborn's post that Falcyn linked above, she very clearly debunks your second point. As nimsology said, the stats are wiped by the OS every time you fully charge your battery (and you can prove this for yourself just by watching the filesystem). All they do is track the stats needed to display your battery use stats in settings. They have nothing to do with the calibration of your battery or the display of the percentages. The app is a myth in the same way that wiping your battery stats is...it does nothing useful whatsoever. It just deletes the same file that the phone deletes itself on a regular basis.
LiIon batteries work best when you just use them noramlly. Full charge/discharge cycles are actually bad for them in the long run. Keeping them cool is actually more important than anything else, which is why they have temp sensors and overheat protection circuits. The only time you should purposefully drain them is when you are storing them for long periods of time, and even then, you shouldn't fully drain them because fully discharging in storage will kill the battery completely.
Apparently you guys are having trouble reading....AT NO POINT DO I SAY...DO THIS AND YOUR BATTERY WILL LAST LONGER...AT NO POINT DO I SAY THAT
Yes the battery stats gets deleted, but if you read what she says...she says that it gets deleted one gets around a full charge...with battery calibration he can choose exactly when he wants to wipe the stats...and thus begin watching his battery withdraw from the exact moment he wants to start
Again what's the myth part...the app does exactly what it says it does...it deletes the battery stats...also if you watch while the app is open you can see more charge go into battery even after it's full and the phone tells you to unplug
And lastly, i can't remember where the article is, but it was an article discussing batteries in smartphones, tablets, etc. The article found that it is more common than one might think that (especially) after modifications or flashing new roms that often times the device well begin to misread battery level info i.e. saying it has 35% then being dead 10 minutes later for no reason...one of the simplest ways to straighten this out is to fully drain the battery and then fully charge the battery.
AGAIN, IN NO WAY DID I TELL ANYONE THAT DOING THESE THINGS WILL MAKE YOUR BATTERY LIFE BETTER
and yes there are prolly 1000 apps he could download to get a more in depth look at his battery, but i haven't used any if them, so i have no need to suggest any of them...the built in works perfectly fine for me
Vibrate isn't working on the key board for me any one else with this problem?
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Yeah the themed keyboard one I put in there (thanks to imnuts and his Infinity rom) has always had that issue for whatever reason - never really bothered me so I just left it as-is.
As an aside regarding the recent battery discussions - shall we all agree to disagree and move on? Or at least move the discussion on to another thread? Feels poised to go south in a hurry is all, and the thread here is already a bit cumbersome.
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