Originally Posted by cellsafemode

betas going live in bit.. . i'm picking 2 people to test this outside of the dev team. 1 on 21e and one on 21y
pm me and include your baseband.

any plans on integrating flak0's new lag fix with future EB roms?

I'm on 21y and ready for testing.

Originally Posted by nodyarg

any plans on integrating flak0's new lag fix with future EB roms?

we dont have a lag problem.

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

we dont have a lag problem.

haha no there certainly is no performance problem. i can safely say the new AOSP based EB is the fastest ICS rom ive run to date. but it was my understanding that there is some issue with zram that had never been fixed until flak0 introduced his dalvik fix. so doesnt that mean that it would still yield a performance increase if you were to implement it?

possibly ...but our aosp rom doesn't utilize zram.

It's my belief that zram doesn't benefit our phones because the added cpu usage and lack of uncompressed usable ram at runtime produces more negatives than the availability of a faster swap file produces positives. Our phone has half of the ram that is recommended for ICS. Taking a fraction of that to use as swap is a waste. in my opinion.

We may introduce swap features in future roms but they will never be default turned on.

We are most likely releasing tonight barring any major issues from the beta testing.

This release is built with aosp's gcc 4.6 toolchain that includes many linaro patches. We built this rom with conservative optimizations to minimize the affect on native libs built with older toolchains that you may find in various apps you download and use. Some will undoubtedly still be affected and not be compatible (maybe some symbols that used to be exported were found to not technically supposed to be exported so they aren't now )... The only app thus far i've found to not work because of this is mx player.

Also to note is that we've updated to the very latest AOSP source for framework and various external libraries. What you should notice in this release is faster interaction and more stability. Other than the 3.x kernel now being installed by default.

Oh, and I do believe the data hanging (not connected) issues are solved.

Cool! Have the odd Bluetooth phone audio issues on 21y been resolved?

Originally Posted by cellsafemode

possibly ...but our aosp rom doesn't utilize zram.

It's my belief that zram doesn't benefit our phones because the added cpu usage and lack of uncompressed usable ram at runtime produces more negatives than the availability of a faster swap file produces positives. Our phone has half of the ram that is recommended for ICS. Taking a fraction of that to use as swap is a waste. in my opinion.

We may introduce swap features in future roms but they will never be default turned on.

im just learning about zram now and im still a little confused about it. i understand that with zram part of the RAM has to be used for paging, which is a problem because we dont have much RAM to begin with, but i also read that "zRam allows Linux to make more use of RAM when swapping/paging is required, especially on older computers with less RAM installed." So the part about it being more useful in systems with less RAM is confusing. it seems contradictory.

also this rom uses faux's 2.6.32.51 which adds zram. so, i was going to ask about that since you said EB doesnt have it, but im guessing its just available from the kernel but disabled from the rom.

anyways... so basically, the flak0 dalvik fix is for zram, which EB doesnt utilize, therefore EB would be unaffected by the flak0 fix? fair enough. thanks for the reply, cant wait for the new build tonight.

Originally Posted by fuzzy bee

Cool! Have the odd Bluetooth phone audio issues on 21y been resolved?

nope. ill look into what audio format the bluetooth stuff expects. but that may be a thing for next week. I don't have the hardware so debugging takes longer

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Originally Posted by nodyarg

im just learning about zram now and im still a little confused about it. i understand that with zram part of the RAM has to be used for paging, which is a problem because we dont have much RAM to begin with, but i also read that "zRam allows Linux to make more use of RAM when swapping/paging is required, especially on older computers with less RAM installed." So the part about it being more useful in systems with less RAM is confusing. it seems contradictory.

less ram where paging would be necessary vs. less ram where paging isn't expected is where android diverges from the common computer.

also this rom uses faux's 2.6.32.51 which adds zram. so, i was going to ask about that since you said EB doesnt have it, but im guessing its just available from the kernel but disabled from the rom.

you got some things wrong there.

I roll the kernels we use in rom. I configure them. I based the previous releases on faux. with patches on top. this new release is based on harsh. with patches. again, reconfigured.

now the rom doesn't disable it. it doesn't have any setting controls to enable or disable it. that is a cm addition not in aosp.

anyways... so basically, the flak0 dalvik fix is for zram, which EB doesnt utilize, therefore EB would be unaffected by the flak0 fix? fair enough. thanks for the reply, cant wait for the new build tonight.

it would be unaffected with the stock kernel. but it addresses only a problem introduced by using zram in the first place. so we don't even have the problem it solves anyway

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