Originally Posted by neoobs
I think you need to experience the things yourself. Yes we are locked down... but at the same time it has nothing to do with Google. I think Google got jipped in the long run. Look at all the ads on TV... "The T-Mobile G1... with google." And at the same time we can still jailbreak it later. Remember we are still learning. People never know how to load custom rom's on new software. Think of it like when a new version of Windows or Mac comes out. It takes time to figure out how to get passed some stupid companies locks so you can customize your software.
Figuring that it has only taken us 2 weeks exactly to jailbreak the device and basically run C compiled software on the device I think we are way ahead of the game. How long did it take to even jailbreak the iPhone? or how long did it take to just learn how to update WM 5 or 6 to 6.1?
You put iPhone and WM on a pedestal, but you don't look at the fact that the android is still a growing baby, and iPhone and WM are both in their older years. Think of it like that, android is still a baby, the iPhone is like the 8-12 year old and WM is like the 16-21 year old. Of course you can do more with the 16-21 year old, and of course things are easier to do with the 8-12 year old and you expected them to talk back to you. But the baby isn't quite developed yet... but at the same time the baby could talk before any of the other kids. Before you know it android is gonna be walking and playing and going to college while the other 2 are going to be in high school still.
Either way I am glad I got my phone. And it won't be much longer before you see the android OS on other phones and the G1 topping all other phones with its numerous updates and overall biggest developer base. With all new things comes an opposition, the difference between success and failure is whether you can convince the opposition.
/rebuttal rant LOL
hmm, well, my opinion...
if you know linux then android's got a really big advantage... you know how most of the system works - and there are quite some people out there who are familiar with linux, or if not, you got a lot of documentation online to learn it.
problem: google already fixed this bug (I agree it had to be fixed, it was horrible how everything you typed got processed, our problem is just a consequence of the fix), now how to jailbreak new g1's? not fun unless we get lucky. this is actually a lot worse than apple's iphone, because apple never bothered to hide the root password
BTW i was there when iphone got jailbroken, and it took less time than android, even though overall the hack was less trivial as iphone was a lot more locked down. (cracking the activation required some nice x86 disassembly, and the jailbreak for accessing the filesystem was a very nice trick)
again, reminding you of the real problem. Chainfire is right here. if it wasn't for this, I'd say it could go to college quite fast