You guys are amazing! Google's all over patches on this one tho :/
I think you need to experience the things yourself. Yes we are locked down... but at the same time it has nothing to do with Google. I think Google got jipped in the long run. Look at all the ads on TV... "The T-Mobile G1... with google." And at the same time we can still jailbreak it later. Remember we are still learning. People never know how to load custom rom's on new software. Think of it like when a new version of Windows or Mac comes out. It takes time to figure out how to get passed some stupid companies locks so you can customize your software.
Figuring that it has only taken us 2 weeks exactly to jailbreak the device and basically run C compiled software on the device I think we are way ahead of the game. How long did it take to even jailbreak the iPhone? or how long did it take to just learn how to update WM 5 or 6 to 6.1?
You put iPhone and WM on a pedestal, but you don't look at the fact that the android is still a growing baby, and iPhone and WM are both in their older years. Think of it like that, android is still a baby, the iPhone is like the 8-12 year old and WM is like the 16-21 year old. Of course you can do more with the 16-21 year old, and of course things are easier to do with the 8-12 year old and you expected them to talk back to you. But the baby isn't quite developed yet... but at the same time the baby could talk before any of the other kids. Before you know it android is gonna be walking and playing and going to college while the other 2 are going to be in high school still.
Either way I am glad I got my phone. And it won't be much longer before you see the android OS on other phones and the G1 topping all other phones with its numerous updates and overall biggest developer base. With all new things comes an opposition, the difference between success and failure is whether you can convince the opposition.
/rebuttal rant LOL
Start a new topic for that stuff if you please...
I went for broke and I bricked mine. (bricked="G1 screen for 1/2 a sec then HTC bootloader, no path to the menu'd exclamation recovery mode") Here's what I did/learned:
Busybox works great
remounted /system rw
copied bbox to /system/bin and symlinked cp, passwd, chown, nc, login, adduser add group, yada
used bbox and a little pasting to add passwd, group and shadow into etc
busybox telnetd worked against the created passwd,shadow and group files and used bb's login
added busybox telnetd to /system/init.rc (init.rc got overwritten on next boot, pre-brick)
edited /system/build.props and added ro-secure = 0 (this probably did it)
The ro.secure property is what adbd checks when deciding to setuid 2000, I think certain files are checksummed for boot as well as for updating.
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