Introducing XDA:DevCon – A Conference For Developers By Developers
XDA Developers Android and Mobile Development Forum
Forgot your password?
 
Post Reply+
Tip us?
 
XxHunterxX
Old
#1  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Geusa
Plug [Q] not Charging from external Battery (USB)

Hi,

My Atrix does not have any Problems with charging when connected to my PC, but it just wont detect the external Battery i own.

It shows no reaction, when the Battery is plugged in via USB and then turned on.
When the phone is off and the battery is connected and turned on, the phone will boot, but still not charge.

I was trying to find out why the Phone won't accept the Battery so I measured the outgoing Voltage: 6,3 V

Note: 2 out of 2 other phones (1 running Android) detected the battery and charged from it without any issues.

The external Battery was really expensive since it comes with a large solar panel to charge it, so I really ought to get this to work!


Does anyone have any Idea what I can do to force my phone into USB-charging mode? Or how to make it detect the battery?

Greetings,
XxHunterxX

(running 2.3.4 with Gentop, rooted, unlocked)
 
Zeljko1234
Old
#2  
Zeljko1234's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 1251
Posts: 1,954
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Zagreb
I know

And I tested today. You must put resistor about 200OHM or just short data pins (2 and 3) in your charger or cable. I really recommend to put resistor. Interested thing is that after phone is connected you can remove resistor and charging will continue.

Motorola Atrix 4G (AT&T) unlocked
MROM [CM7] [CM10.1 with Polish(ed) 3.1.10 kernel]
Nexus 7 stock 4.2.2
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Zeljko1234 For This Useful Post: [ Click to Expand ]
 
XxHunterxX
Old
(Last edited by XxHunterxX; 6th July 2012 at 05:05 PM.)
#3  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Geusa
Thank you VERY much for your effort!

Why wouldn't you recommend just shortening D+ and D- on the Type-A-side? what could happen? Wouldn't that just make the resistance infinitively high?

Also, Why does it work with other phones, if it's the battery's / cable's fault?

I know those are a lot of questions, but I would really apreciate it if you took the time to answer them.

Greetings,

XxHunterxX

Edit: just realised I misunderstood Zeljko. I thought by "short data pins" he meant to clip them off so they couldn't connect to the device :P
Of course he meant short circuiting them^^
 
Zeljko1234
Old
#4  
Zeljko1234's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 1251
Posts: 1,954
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Zagreb
Because shorting electronic circuit could damage it. Better safe than sorry. I tested today and even 330kOhm works.

Other phones obviously doesn't care about data pins. Probably Motorola wish to protect phone from low quality third party chargers.
Motorola Atrix 4G (AT&T) unlocked
MROM [CM7] [CM10.1 with Polish(ed) 3.1.10 kernel]
Nexus 7 stock 4.2.2
 
XxHunterxX
Old
#5  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Geusa
I followed your advice and soldered a 200 Ohm resistor between D+ and D- coming from the Mirco-USB-side.
I just insulated the D+ and D- of the Type-A-USB-side

I actually followed a REALLY useful (German) Guide for things of this type: Sorry It appears I can't post links...

Sadly, I can't test wether it works at the moment, because my phone is being repaired (touchscreen broken).

If you are interested I can tell you wether it works, as soon as I get my phone back.

regards,
XxHunterxX
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Ladekabel.JPG
Views:	39
Size:	39.0 KB
ID:	1193555  
 
Zeljko1234
Old
#6  
Zeljko1234's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 1251
Posts: 1,954
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Zagreb
I know it works, I tested by myself

Could you send me link? I think you can post link around code tag or picture or just figure out somehow
Motorola Atrix 4G (AT&T) unlocked
MROM [CM7] [CM10.1 with Polish(ed) 3.1.10 kernel]
Nexus 7 stock 4.2.2
 
heyitsaustin123
Old
(Last edited by heyitsaustin123; 13th July 2012 at 08:20 AM.)
#7  
Junior Member
Thanks Meter 3
Posts: 12
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Long Island, NY
Is your charger a Minty Boost? I have a Minty Boost and it always over heats when i try to charge my Atrix :\

:EDIT: Also I tried shorting out D+ and D- with no avail. It charges but quickly overheats
 
Zeljko1234
Old
#8  
Zeljko1234's Avatar
Senior Member
Thanks Meter 1251
Posts: 1,954
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Zagreb
Quote:
Originally Posted by heyitsaustin123 View Post
Is your charger a Minty Boost? I have a Minty Boost and it always over heats when i try to charge my Atrix :\

:EDIT: Also I tried shorting out D+ and D- with no avail. It charges but quickly overheats
It's cheap chinese charger. I just used it once for testing and I didn't noticed any overheats. I bought it for cycling but I'm traveling a lot and unfortunately I don't have time for long ride.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280851355387...ht_8694wt_1396
Motorola Atrix 4G (AT&T) unlocked
MROM [CM7] [CM10.1 with Polish(ed) 3.1.10 kernel]
Nexus 7 stock 4.2.2
 
XxHunterxX
Old
#9  
Junior Member - OP
Thanks Meter 0
Posts: 5
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Geusa
Quote:
Originally Posted by heyitsaustin123 View Post
Is your charger a Minty Boost? I have a Minty Boost and it always over heats when i try to charge my Atrix :\

:EDIT: Also I tried shorting out D+ and D- with no avail. It charges but quickly overheats
If your charger overheats then the worst you can do is short the D+ and D-!
Because then your phone will detect it as a charger and will draw not only 500mA, but even more so your charger will overheat even faster.

You should probably just buy a charger that isn't so cheap

 
Post Reply+
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Go to top of page...

XDA PORTAL POSTS

Xposed Framework Module for the AT&T Galaxy S 4

Got yourself a brand new Galaxy S 4? Are you looking for some fun mods to make it truly your … more

Job Interview Prep: Phone Screen Part 1 – XDA Developer TV

XDA Developer TV Producer Jayce has been very busy creating videos to help … more

Auto Test Your Android Apps with Robotium

You’ve just finished coding your very first app, but before you release it to the wild, you … more

Open Source CPU Info App for Windows

So you’re playing with your shiny new Windows 8 tablet PC, when one of your like-minded geeky … more