Originally Posted by maek_it_happen

If HTC only allowed s-off ....:banghead:

My SGS2 hasn't had a single issue until the line in the screen showed up.

So the HTC can't be rooted? I don't understand what you mean...

No obviously it can be rooted , didn'tean to confuse or mislead . It's just certain HTC devices don't have an exploit for s-off .... Wich means boot IMG need to be flashed separaty in fastboot after you flash your Rom . Once/if we ever get s-off then you could flash normally ,

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S2's Super AMOLED Plus display crushes the One S display. On my One S, I had signal issues. Plus the One S doesn't have a removable battery or expansion slot. Although the One S does have a sleek design and a better S4 SnapDragon processor (assuming the replacement is S4)

The one S is the much better phone.

Advantages of one S, assuming you get the S4 version:

- audio (the best audio there is along with the GS 3 and possibly the iphone 5 now)
- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3 and the X when it comes to performance per core, power efficiency and heat) and it is the fastest device I have used to date, faster than the GS 3 quad etc.
- best battery life excluding the RAZR max and possibly the iphone 5
- better screen than the GS 2 (read anandtech's review, they class it as being the best SAMOLED display they have ever used essentially) The only downside of it is that it isn't 720P and slightly larger, but the calibration of the screen is very good and IMO the overall quality when it comes to the colours etc. is better than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- build/perceived quality
- IMO design/looks
- one of the best cameras, although 1080P recording isn't great
- sense V4 IMO (the camera UI and features can't be matched as well as a few other things)
- NLED, although a crap NLED

Disadvantages for some people:

- low internal storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21 GB for apps) and no SD slot
- no NFC
- non removable battery

Advantages of the GS 2 over the S:

- removable battery
- SD slot
- better developing community
- 1080P recording in terms of smoothness and light metering


The phone is superb, however, HTC's support for the S with regards to the updates is shocking and is why I might move to one of the new nexus devices if they match or better the S!

Originally Posted by Terminator19

- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3)

hahaha

Don't compare quadcore A9 with dual core A15.


Our Krait is fast but is a piece of **** comparing with quadcore from exynos.
GPU is sucks here also. We can't even play full 1080p video in desktop mod, because ****ty adreno 225. Games are lags also.
U didn't see that ? No ? Because you do not know the difference


Quadcore is a quadcore son. Don't be stupid.

Originally Posted by avetny

hahaha

Don't compare quadcore A9 with dual core A15.


Our Krait is fast but is a piece of **** comparing with quadcore from exynos.
GPU is sucks here also. We can't even play full 1080p video in desktop mod, because ****ty adreno 225. Games are lags also.
U didn't see that ? No ? Because you do not know the difference


Quadcore is a quadcore son. Don't be stupid.

I see you haven't educated yourself any further since I last pwned you:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...9&postcount=14

Back to your nursing home "pa". Leave technology to the younger generation.


PS. Regarding the 1080P not being played back, ever heard of a thing called software optimization? I guess you haven't......

Take those 1080P youtube videos and play them back in BS player and they work flawlessly.

Also what games are these? Poorly optimized games? Every game I have tried has been super smooth on the S.


HTH

Originally Posted by Terminator19

I see you haven't educated yourself any further since I last pwned you:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...9&postcount=14

Back to your nursing home "pa". Leave technology to the younger generation.


PS. Regarding the 1080P not being played back, ever heard of a thing called software optimization? I guess you haven't......

Take those 1080P videos and play them back in BS player and they work flawlessly.

Also what games are these? Poorly optimized games? Every game I have tried has been super smooth on the S.


HTH

S III Release date: 22 May 2012
and your review made in May 01 2012.
Let me guess ATT decided to pay for review, so as a to resist fraud complaints.
Im gonna see later on review when they will release Galaxy note2 with quadcore.

I can say samething like u do....benchmarking is not optimized for quadcore.


And any way Krait A15 it's based on the same instruction set as the new ARM A15 processors"

please be sure to make clear the Qualcomm "Krait" Soc's are NOT full A15 architectures. they are BASED on A9's with heavily modified architectural features from the A15 ARM reference design, but the Krait is NOT a full A15.

Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well.

there are many differences between Qualcomm's S4 "Krait" architecture and ARM's A15 design.

Just as Qualcomm's "Scorpion" A8-based chips weren't completely A9's either although they were heavily modified to include some A9 features.

Egypt test favors Vertex shading power, and Mali400 is intentionally lacking in that department. If you were to built a test that was pixel shader heavy, the results would be more balanced. You saw this same kind of thing happen in the GeForce 7, Radion X1900 era, when it was nVidia that decided it was better to have more Pixel power than Vertex power. The SGX doesn't haven't to worry about that since it's USA.

Remember how much it had not been optimized it still dual. And it means that you are limited in the maximum load. (DUAL WITH THE DAMN LOW RESOLUTION ! Which is BIG POINTS in benchmarking.)
U never use your phone how I do. Try to run media in car by Bluetooth, and surf the internet. when your google navigation is ON. What u gonna say now ? Is not optimized yet? Now do everything same on quadcore exynos...it will do it "like a boss".

I can give you fact after fact for a long time...but it's no point. U just got HTC one s...and I got cellphone store. I do not need to read reviews, I'm the one who makes them.

Originally Posted by Terminator19

The one S is the much better phone.

Advantages of one S, assuming you get the S4 version:

- audio (the best audio there is along with the GS 3 and possibly the iphone 5 now)
- best CPU chipset (CPU is better than the quad in the GS 3 and the X when it comes to performance per core, power efficiency and heat) and it is the fastest device I have used to date, faster than the GS 3 quad etc.
- best battery life excluding the RAZR max and possibly the iphone 5
- better screen than the GS 2 (read anandtech's review, they class it as being the best SAMOLED display they have ever used essentially) The only downside of it is that it isn't 720P and slightly larger, but the calibration of the screen is very good and IMO the overall quality when it comes to the colours etc. is better than the GS 3 SAMOLED screen
- build/perceived quality
- IMO design/looks
- one of the best cameras, although 1080P recording isn't great
- sense V4 IMO (the camera UI and features can't be matched as well as a few other things)
- NLED, although a crap NLED

Disadvantages for some people:

- low internal storage (10GB for videos, photos etc. and 2.21 GB for apps) and no SD slot
- no NFC
- non removable battery

Advantages of the GS 2 over the S:

- removable battery
- SD slot
- better developing community
- 1080P recording in terms of smoothness and light metering


The phone is superb, however, HTC's support for the S with regards to the updates is shocking and is why I might move to one of the new nexus devices if they match or better the S!

Thanks for the in-depth comparison. This really helps me make a decision.
I hate to give up the quality 1080p recording of the S2, but the One S just seems like the next step in tech.
I'm gonna give it a shot because of the things you've mentioned, and because I'm guaranteed to get a new phone vs. a potentially refurbished S2.

Originally Posted by avetny

S III Release date: 22 May 2012
and your review made in May 01 2012.
Let me guess ATT decided to pay for review, so as a to resist fraud complaints.
Im gonna see later on review when they will release Galaxy note2 with quadcore.

I can say samething like u do....benchmarking is not optimized for quadcore.


And any way Krait A15 it's based on the same instruction set as the new ARM A15 processors"

please be sure to make clear the Qualcomm "Krait" Soc's are NOT full A15 architectures. they are BASED on A9's with heavily modified architectural features from the A15 ARM reference design, but the Krait is NOT a full A15.

Qualcomm lengthened Krait's integer pipeline slightly from 10 stages in Scorpion to 11 stages in Krait. ARM's Cortex A15 design by comparison features a 15-stage integer pipeline. The A15's deeper pipeline should give it a clock speed advantage as well.

there are many differences between Qualcomm's S4 "Krait" architecture and ARM's A15 design.

Just as Qualcomm's "Scorpion" A8-based chips weren't completely A9's either although they were heavily modified to include some A9 features.

Egypt test favors Vertex shading power, and Mali400 is intentionally lacking in that department. If you were to built a test that was pixel shader heavy, the results would be more balanced. You saw this same kind of thing happen in the GeForce 7, Radion X1900 era, when it was nVidia that decided it was better to have more Pixel power than Vertex power. The SGX doesn't haven't to worry about that since it's USA.

Remember how much it had not been optimized it still dual. And it means that you are limited in the maximum load. (DUAL WITH THE DAMN LOW RESOLUTION ! Which is BIG POINTS in benchmarking.)
U never use your phone how I do. Try to run media in car by Bluetooth, and surf the internet. when your google navigation is ON. What u gonna say now ? Is not optimized yet? Now do everything same on quadcore exynos...it will do it "like a boss".

I can give you fact after fact for a long time...but it's no point. U just got HTC one s...and I got cellphone store. I do not need to read reviews, I'm the one who makes them.

What?

Your post makes no sense at all apart from the middle part......Please learn how to write proper English with the correct use of grammar before posting.

Anyway, taking parts of your post that I can just about make out.

What review are you talking about? None of the reviews I have linked to were created on the 1st May and my review was done near the end of April.

Yes, benchmarking apps aren't optimised for quad core, therefore every expert review site will still use it anyway, seems legit.......

Emm, I said to compare the XL instead of the S, due to the S having a lower res. than the GS 3. The XL has the same res. as the GS 3 and it still beats the GS 3 quad in those benchmarks that I posted.....

I have never used my phone for that, so I can't comment from my own experience on that particular usage. What you are referring to is multi-tasking, which HTC have ****ed up on, they even said it is a "feature", therefore that is why you are probably having issues with doing those 3 things at the same time, again down to software optimization, not hardware.

Ok so you have this "cellphone store" of yours, yet you use a HTC one S as your main phone instead of your beloved GS 3, yeah ok........

Originally Posted by nova hands

Thanks for the in-depth comparison. This really helps me make a decision.
I hate to give up the quality 1080p recording of the S2, but the One S just seems like the next step in tech.
I'm gonna give it a shot because of the things you've mentioned, and because I'm guaranteed to get a new phone vs. a potentially refurbished S2.

No problem

Got the One S last week.

Absolutely love this phone, but my reception at home and at work has suffered as a result of the switch.

I'm not sure why, but I don't get enough signal in my house to make a call now. I was getting 2 solid bars of service with my Galaxy S2.

Are there different radios for this device that I can try?