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Why one should never unlock the Motorola Razr HD bootloader (xt925) !

15th February 2013, 01:27 AM |#1  
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The pro & cons of unlocking the bootloader:
Pro: Install customs ROMS with custom kernels (basically that's it)
Cons: - Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier
- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)
- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD
- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)
- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware
- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)
- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !

If someone can add some Pro's to an unlock bootloader please do it..
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15th February 2013, 06:08 AM |#2  
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Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.
15th February 2013, 01:36 PM |#3  
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I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone.
15th February 2013, 09:40 PM |#4  
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Are you sure about the firmware upgrades? I read somewhere that's not the case.

I spoke to Motorola & my carrier services, also read the warning details before the unlock process begins.
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I wish I had known all this before I unlocked my phone

Same here..(I learned all that after the fact)
16th February 2013, 04:58 AM |#5  
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I'd add this to Pro:

If you're stuck on Rogers 49003 ICS because you flashed the ROM trying to get root, your best option to get anything above 4.0.4 is to unlock bootloader?
16th February 2013, 05:39 AM |#6  
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Perhaps a CWM install will be possible for those with unlocked bootloaders when updates come.

It seems that in one form or another an unlocked bootloader means being able to push all the new files in doesn't it? Is there any limitation on this phone, for example flashing a new modem or kernel?
16th February 2013, 12:40 PM |#7  
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Cons one by one:
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Originally Posted by itzik_man

- Loosing warranty from Motorola & your carrier

True, but obvious.

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- No more firmware upgrades (your IMEI is dropped out of Motorola databank)

Nope. Even if you were not to receive OTA, which by the way is not true as I've observed on my Photon Q, you can still freely flash the new firmwares yourself ^^

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- Little verity of quality custom ROMs or development (close to none) exist for the Razr HD

Depends on ones point of view. Usually a CM port means you get newer Android sooner.

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- Future upgrade to JB & KLP will never happened (this phone is listed as a potential candidate for KLP update)

Why it wouldn't? Unlocking BLs has no impact on upgrade schedule.

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- Keeping your xt925 beyond your 1 year warranty will still guaranty, a steady upgrades of firmware

No. That's solely on Moto / Google decision. They don't have to update it at all. (See Droid 3, Milestone 3, Motorola XT720 etc.)

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- Can root a phone with bootloader locked (without loosing warranty - root is reversible)

Yes, although you have to be careful, because there are scirpts checking if you're rooted.

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- Legally (Motorola binding Bootloader unlock contract), you can't sell a BL unlock Motorola Razr HD phone !

You can sue Moto for breaking laws. They can't forbid you doing that (don't know honestly how is that in US / Canada, but I doubt that seeing how it works with computer games).

So please, while for normal user not willing to flash custom ROMs it's true that they should not unlock the bootloader, don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.
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16th February 2013, 03:56 PM |#8  
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don't spill nonsenses around that. It's just that when you unlock your bootloader, you're on your own when playing with the firmware. But when you have stock firmware back on it, nothing prevents you from getting the OTA.

Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...
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At least on my O2 Germany xt925 I got the update OTA from ICS to JB after unlocking. Had to return to the stock bootloader because the OTA relies on it after rebooting though.
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16th February 2013, 06:34 PM |#10  
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Possible 90% of your response represent just false theories..
OTA is goneforever once you unlock your bootloader ! If & when you be able manually to install JB, still your IMEI (not registered with Motorola) wont OTA.
You can sue nobody ! it's a contractual agreement you "sign" when you agree to unlock BL !
And if you can't OTA, No future auto upgrades.
So, before you use a statement "don't spill nonsense" make sure you are talking sense...

Once again.

A) The reason why the page says "no updates" is beacuse OTA updates only work when you're on stock firmware, which is unlikely when you have the bootloader unlocked. That's all.

B) There are things that such "agreement" cannot contain. Being unable to sell the phone is one of them in most countries.
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