Only issue with the 4mp ultrapixel is the details of the picture. Cause no matter how big the pixels are it still can't beat the detail quality of a picture with a higher megapixel. They could have pushed the camera to 6megapixels and it would have been a match with the others. Cause with 4mp ultrapixels. Zooming the pictures specially on low light would only show the smudge like things on the pictures.

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Originally Posted by Riyal

Only issue with the 4mp ultrapixel is the details of the picture. Cause no matter how big the pixels are it still can't beat the detail quality of a picture with a higher megapixel. They could have pushed the camera to 6megapixels and it would have been a match with the others. Cause with 4mp ultrapixels. Zooming the pictures specially on low light would only show the smudge like things on the pictures.

I have the same feeling. Why 4mp if you had to do ultrapixel, you could've done with 6 or even 8MP.

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Originally Posted by AayushDhuria

I have the same feeling. Why 4mp if you had to do ultrapixel, you could've done with 6 or even 8MP.

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The only thing stopping me buying the phone. I tend to take a lot of photos of scenery and even my incredible s gives me great shots. So this is slightly worrying, but hopefully on release day people will upload plenty of shots.

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Yeah, I understand all the complaints about the camera. I have an EVO3d, the camera is garbage. Unless there is perfect, bright light it isn't great at all. The demo pics that have been shown look to have that EVO3d washed out look. Does anyone else with a 3d see this? I'll go look at it launch day or so then wait till my April 1st date. No sense taking a phone with a marketing buzzed camera when viable alternatives are available if it sucks.

Originally Posted by vizzy

The only thing stopping me buying the phone. I tend to take a lot of photos of scenery and even my incredible s gives me great shots. So this is slightly worrying, but hopefully on release day people will upload plenty of shots.

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If you are comparing it with the likes of incredible S then it should be on par or little bit greater. Increasing the pixel size does indeed enhances the colors and also give the advantage of having more details. The thing that's wrong with what they did here is balancing the pixel sizes and the number of megapixels on the camera.

Putting ratio computations here.

The trend now is a 13mp camera.

making a 4mp camera sacrifices 9mp and that's almost 1/3 of 13mp.
while they only increased the pixel size by x2 making it 1/2 compared to the lack of the 9mp.

so 1/3 : 1/2 is quite not balanced making it a 3:2 ratio on both ultrapixel and megapixels.

to balance this calculation they should have made a 6.5mp camera to make the megapixel a 1/2 and by doubling the ultrapixel giving it also 1/2 sufficing the lack of wider megapixel.


Sorry for being a math junky here.

Originally Posted by NiCk.JaY

Dude, if you read, they have increased the size of every pixel to 2um. That's double the size on other smartphones. If it were just a marketing trick, then the camera would not have performed good enough to chalenge iPhone (I'm not saying it's better than iPhone, but it's really close)

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Yeah, but it's not exactly anything new or exciting - phones used to come with 2um pixels in their camera sensors. Pixel counts or sizes are a really misleading indicator of image quality, as the image will depend just as much on the quality of the optics and ISP. Now, if they had doubled the size of the sensor, not just the pixels, then you could expect real improvements in quality. As it is the performance should be similar to any other cameras with a similar size of sensor and quality optics and ISP.

The choice of 4, 8 or 13 MP isn't really a better/worse thing - there will be trade offs between performance in different situations. HTC have made the choice that a 4MP sensor with fancy ISP and interface will give more reliable results in the situations where phone cameras are used most - quick snaps of people who can't stay still in poor lighting rather than careful studio shots or beautiful landscapes. That's a good choice to make in my opinion, but depending on how you use your phone camera it might not be the right choice for you.

The marketing guys have to try and convince buyers that more megapixels isn't necessarily better, and "ultapixels" is just a marketing gimmick to try and explain the megapixel myth to average buyers.

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Originally Posted by rmein

Yeah, but it's not exactly anything new or exciting - phones used to come with 2um pixels in their camera sensors. Pixel counts or sizes are a really misleading indicator of image quality, as the image will depend just as much on the quality of the optics and ISP. Now, if they had doubled the size of the sensor, not just the pixels, then you could expect real improvements in quality. As it is the performance should be similar to any other cameras with a similar size of sensor and quality optics and ISP.

The choice of 4, 8 or 13 MP isn't really a better/worse thing - there will be trade offs between performance in different situations. HTC have made the choice that a 4MP sensor with fancy ISP and interface will give more reliable results in the situations where phone cameras are used most - quick snaps of people who can't stay still in poor lighting rather than careful studio shots or beautiful landscapes. That's a good choice to make in my opinion, but depending on how you use your phone camera it might not be the right choice for you.

The marketing guys have to try and convince buyers that more megapixels isn't necessarily better, and "ultapixels" is just a marketing gimmick to try and explain the megapixel myth to average buyers.

I think you are spot on in this post.

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The nokia n900 which is a 2009 phone has 2.8um pixel on it's 4mp camera. So yes what rmein says is true. The magic within the great pictures and videos on HTC One is because of the imaging chip that HTC made and of course the technology which are already implemented on the current cameras. Last 2009 megapixels weren't that much of a hype yet. It was still on the camera's lenses. Most people tend to look at the lenses If it's carl zeiss then it's great and if it's not then it sucks.

im waiting for a comparision with the Lumia 1000

Found these from Phone Arena, the shots on the bottom are taken with the HTC one, they seem stunning to me, way better than my one S http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-O...Nexus-4-sample