[2017.08.02] DSLR Controller v1.05

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aflocka

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But is there any reason you would think the technology would/would not be compatible with the app? That is, does the app have to "know" certain things about the lens for the focus feature to work properly, or is it purely based off of the lens' capabilities? I ask because the STM lenses are supposedly extremely smooth focusing, which could be attractive for remote focus pulls if they work with the app.
 

deadwalrus

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What was the output of USB Host Diagnostics ?

Yes, it could be the case that all the cables and connectors you have tried are faulty - but it's not very likely. Of course, you could have a strong case of bad luck. But even cables that do not work with DSLR Controller should let USB Host Diagnostics detect for example a USB stick.

It could also be both your firmwares are somehow incompatible - which is weird, as both devices have firmwares that work, and you being stuck with a firmware on both devices that doesn't happen to work is also not very likely.

In truth, I find it hard to guess. You can have a faulty firmware, faulty hardware, faulty cables, etc, but it seems you have tried multiple of each and still get nothing - that's just weird. I know people are using DSLR Controller with both of these devices (the S2 I have myself, even).

The USB Diagnostics app said that usb functionality was working but that no device was detected. I'm taking some space from this for a bit while I wait for another connector to be delivered. I'll try it again in a bit and see if I can't find out what the problem is. I appreciate the responses and the support you offer for your app. Hopefully I can get it working but it seems for now the stars are aligned against me.
 

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But is there any reason you would think the technology would/would not be compatible with the app? That is, does the app have to "know" certain things about the lens for the focus feature to work properly, or is it purely based off of the lens' capabilities? I ask because the STM lenses are supposedly extremely smooth focusing, which could be attractive for remote focus pulls if they work with the app.

I don't expect any issues with this, really. But I can't guarantee it because I haven't tried :)
 

4rs fed

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Hi Chainfire,

I read great things about DSLR controller and purchased Nexus 7 to monitor my Canon 7D. The combination worked for a while and I absolutely loved it. But then it stopped working. I rebooted the devices, cleared the caches etc., even purchased new cables, but nothing seemed to help. Then, all of the sudden, the software started working again. Until, some time later, it stopped again. Then it started working. And so on... Each time the DSLR Controller stops working, the other apps using USB host feature stop working as well so that none of the USB devices will be detected anymore (except the mouse!). The erratic nature of the problem points towards a hardware problem, but the strange thing is that the problem always starts with the DSLR controller failing. Maybe this is a coincidence, or then the app does something that kills the system.

At time of writing I cannot do any further tests as nothing seems to revive the USB connection. I've even reset the tablet to factory settings and reinstalled the DSLR controller. Nothing helps. The diagnostics app does not detect any USB devices. Could this still be a software issue or should I get my N7 fixed? Do you know if anyone else with the same hardware/software-combination run into same issue?
I have the exact same setup (7d w/ N7 32gb)
I have NEVER had a problem..........
been using it for over 8 months.
 

xdamember06

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sony U + acer b1 wireless work

sony U + acer b1 wireless work.
:angel: i am happy it's working first try ! thank mr Chainfire for the app. and the time you spend on this forum.
(i am going to build 4 "controled-cam" for video work)

Setup : 550D connected with cheap sony phones in wireless mode(3.5" screen) and as wireless receiver "cheap acer b1" (7" tablet).

next week i am going to test in real work (b-cam) a 3 hour record.

my new question : in wireless mode, is it possible to choose the phone i want too connect to the tablet ? (because i want 4 cam ).
4 550D + 4 sony + 4 b1 = ??? :)

ps: sorry for my bad English.
 

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sony U + acer b1 wireless work.
:angel: i am happy it's working first try ! thank mr Chainfire for the app. and the time you spend on this forum.
(i am going to build 4 "controled-cam" for video work)

Setup : 550D connected with cheap sony phones in wireless mode(3.5" screen) and as wireless receiver "cheap acer b1" (7" tablet).

next week i am going to test in real work (b-cam) a 3 hour record.

my new question : in wireless mode, is it possible to choose the phone i want too connect to the tablet ? (because i want 4 cam ).
4 550D + 4 sony + 4 b1 = ??? :)

ps: sorry for my bad English.

There's currently no way to choose between this, no. However, if all these devices support Wi-Fi Direct, you could create 4 "private" networks, each with one U and one B1 in it.
 

philerskine

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Hey Deadwalrus and Chainfire, I tried hooking my 60d into a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, no dice. Cable accepts USB sticks and all but I can't get it to work for the life of me.

Sounds like the same issue as deadwalrus is having. The tablet is on 4.1.1 and 60d is the latest firmware too. I don't know if it's just us or a wider issue but I thought it was odd as the tab 2 is on the supported list.
 

zaphyr

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Re: [Android 2.3.1/3.x/4.x][27.09.2012] DSLR Controller v0.96.0 BETA [USB HOST REQUIR

After testing the functionality with the free remote app and Helicon, I decided to buy this app. It's a much higher price than I usually pay for apps, but considering the rep of the developer and me being a photo enthusiast I decided it was worth the cost. I'm using a Canon 1000D and a Nexus 7, and it seems to be working perfectly albeit there are limitations because of the camera OS. Hopefully I'll be able to buy a better camera one day. Now I can't wait to get out there and take pictures! Thanks! :)

PS. The GUI could be more intuitive, and needs an overhaul, imo....

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D79_

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Ive searched for the answer but cant find it so I was wondering if someone can help

its say liveview at 30fps but when I use that option nothing changes, I still get very low fps.

im using, canon 600D 1080p, galaxy s3, connected via usb. Is there a sollution or does this mean ill have to pay out for a HD monitor
 

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After testing the functionality with the free remote app and Helicon, I decided to buy this app. It's a much higher price than I usually pay for apps, but considering the rep of the developer and me being a photo enthusiast I decided it was worth the cost. I'm using a Canon 1000D and a Nexus 7, and it seems to be working perfectly albeit there are limitations because of the camera OS. Hopefully I'll be able to buy a better camera one day. Now I can't wait to get out there and take pictures! Thanks! :)

PS. The GUI could be more intuitive, and needs an overhaul, imo....

Yes, it is priced higher. It's ridiculously hard to develop due to having to reverse engineer every single thing, the market is tiny at best, and there are serious costs involved testing and producing this. And still, it's only a third of the cost of a Canon remote release cable, which takes a whopping $0.02 to actually produce.

As for the UI, meh. DSLR Controller isn't meant to be pretty - it's meant to be useful. If you know your camera inside out, the icons match those on your camera, and screen real-estate is maximized for what needs to be done. I actually get a lot of positive comment on the UI, that it's simple, no-nonsense, and doesn't waste any precious screen real-estate with useless clutter and prettiness.

Ive searched for the answer but cant find it so I was wondering if someone can help

its say liveview at 30fps but when I use that option nothing changes, I still get very low fps.

im using, canon 600D 1080p, galaxy s3, connected via usb. Is there a sollution or does this mean ill have to pay out for a HD monitor

Your camera needs to actually provide and the phone needs to actually be able to decode at 30fps. I get 30fps with the 5D Mark III, about 20fps with my 50D, and about 13fps with my 550D, I'd estimate. This option is an indicator to the app - if the top speed is 15fps, setting it to 15fps will give you a much smoother display than setting it to 30fps.

Chainfire:

Any future plans to have DSLR controller connect via WiFi (e.g. Canon 6d)?

Yes, as soon as I can find someone to borrow a 6D from or being able to rent it somewhere.
 

zaphyr

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Re: [Android 2.3.1/3.x/4.x][27.09.2012] DSLR Controller v0.96.0 BETA [USB HOST REQUIR

Yes, it is priced higher. It's ridiculously hard to develop due to having to reverse engineer every single thing, the market is tiny at best, and there are serious costs involved testing and producing this. And still, it's only a third of the cost of a Canon remote release cable, which takes a whopping $0.02 to actually produce.

As for the UI, meh. DSLR Controller isn't meant to be pretty - it's meant to be useful. If you know your camera inside out, the icons match those on your camera, and screen real-estate is maximized for what needs to be done. I actually get a lot of positive comment on the UI, that it's simple, no-nonsense, and doesn't waste any precious screen real-estate with useless clutter and prettiness.

I'm not complaining about the price. It's actually a compliment to you, and a thanks for developing the app. I know people that would rather download and install a pirated version, because they wouldn't pay the price or have no respect for the work you do. So, thank you!

I never said the GUI should be pretty, I don't care about that. I said intuitive. I know my camera, and could use most of the functions in your app right off...but having a button simply labled "A" or "B" doesn't really tell me what it does, or is supposed to do. I'm sure these questions will be covered in the "how-to" section in the future :)

So anyways, no criticism, just feedback


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but having a button simply labled "A" or "B" doesn't really tell me what it does, or is supposed to do. I'm sure these questions will be covered in the "how-to" section in the future

It'll be obvious to anyone who has used an A-B focus pull. It's also explained in detail here: http://dslrcontroller.com/guide-rmf_focuspull.php.

But I now understand where you are coming from though. The 1000D does not support normal autofocus functionality over USB. The app detects this, and automatically switches to R-MF mode. Users with newer model cameras do not get these options on screen (unless they manually switch to R-MF mode) ... I can see how it can be a bit confusing if you're presented with this screen at the start.
 

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Your camera needs to actually provide and the phone needs to actually be able to decode at 30fps. I get 30fps with the 5D Mark III, about 20fps with my 50D, and about 13fps with my 550D, I'd estimate. This option is an indicator to the app - if the top speed is 15fps, setting it to 15fps will give you a much smoother display than setting it to 30fps.


Ok thank you, ill give it a try
 

zaphyr

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Re: [Android 2.3.1/3.x/4.x][27.09.2012] DSLR Controller v0.96.0 BETA [USB HOST REQUIR

It'll be obvious to anyone who has used an A-B focus pull. It's also explained in detail here: http://dslrcontroller.com/guide-rmf_focuspull.php.

But I now understand where you are coming from though. The 1000D does not support normal autofocus functionality over USB. The app detects this, and automatically switches to R-MF mode. Users with newer model cameras do not get these options on screen (unless they manually switch to R-MF mode) ... I can see how it can be a bit confusing if you're presented with this screen at the start.

Ah! Thanks for the explanation! Every day I learn something new :) my camera doesn't support video recording, and I'm more into photography than making videos so I didn't know about Focus Pulling, which seems to me to be a more video related feature. I'm going to dive into photo stacking using the DSLR Controller...I just need to find some free time :)


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D79_

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This app don't seem to support my Canon 600D, the frame rates are way to low in movir mode, and ive tried all the settings and still low fps. Also this app doesnt seem to support magic lantern and I use magic lantern alot.

This apps a nice idea though so keep up the good work.
 

mattitta

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great but

I've tried both helicon remote and yours. I like helicon's focus stacking feature better but what their asking for the app is just to much in my opinion. Dslr controller has more otions and is better priced. That said i seem to have some issue's, I'm using a 7d with accer iconia A210. if you look at the images you can see how when i change to hdr focus stacking the number of shots changes and that the type of shots is cutoff. Also in timelapse the interval and number of shots is cutoff. The only thing i would change is the placement of the controls for focusing on the focus stacking screen as they are over the image on the top and bottom of the screen making it difficult to focus on the closest and fartherist points. I still like your app better then helicons. Tank you.
 

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lienfx

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I searched the thread and it doesn't seem like anyone is having the same issues I have.

I bought the DSLR Controller and I can't download it from the play store through my Nexus 7 (4.2.2). It says "Your device isn't compatible with this version." When I head over to the Play Store through the browser I can send it to my other Nexus 7 but not this one. :confused:

EDIT: Problem was the pixel density was altered. Returned back to default density and was able to download.
 
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    In an effort to de-duplicate a lot of information, I have moved the bulk of it to the DSLR Controller website. This thread still remains the place to get support, discuss, and ask questions, though!

    DSLR Controller was the first and remains the best app to fully control your Canon EOS DSLR from your Android device, through USB cable or Wi-Fi connection. No computer or laptop required, no root required, only a compatible mobile device, a compatible camera, and if connecting through USB, the right cable.

    We strongly suggest you read up on the website ( http://dslrcontroller.com/ ) about what DSLR Controller can do, how it works, and how to use it, before purchasing. The website contains a wealth of information you should know before using.

    Not all devices are compatible, especially if you want to use a USB connection. For a free app you can use to test compatibility, see the "Remote Release" app ( http://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.remoterelease ). If you need a refund, go to our website ( http://dslrcontroller.com/ ) and follow the instructions in the FAQ entry. We cannot process refunds through email.

    Usage notes, feature lists, device compatibility lists, changelogs, FAQs, can all be found on our website: http://dslrcontroller.com/

    Most questions should go to the support and discussion thread at XDA-Developers.com:
    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202082


    Features

    Features include but are not limited to:

    - Live View
    - Auto Focus (tap Live View)
    - Manual focus adjustments (in AF mode)
    - Histogram
    - Zoom control
    - Grid and aspect ratio overlay
    - Bulb capture
    - Continuous capture
    - Image review (+ follow shot, gallery)
    - Image filters (peaking, contrast, channel mask, grayscale, 4 modes/filter)
    - Video recording
    - HDR/Auto Exposure Bracketing
    - Focus Bracketing (incl. HDR)
    - Focus A-B
    - Mirror Lockup support
    - Timelapse (incl. HDR)
    - Wi-Fi Passthrough
    - Extensive modification of settings
    -- Shutter speed
    -- Aperture
    -- ExpComp and Bracket
    -- ISO speed
    -- Auto-Focus Mode
    -- Focus and Zoom area (tap-and-hold Live View)
    -- Picture Style
    -- Drive Mode
    -- White Balance
    -- Color Temperature
    -- Auto-Lighting Optimizer
    -- Metering Mode
    -- Image and video quality and format

    Available options depend on the mode you have your camera set to (M, Av, Tv, etc) and camera model. Refer to the website ( http://dslrcontroller.com/ ) for further details.


    Supported Android devices:

    If you are connecting using Wi-Fi, virtually all modern Android devices are supported (your camera needs Wi-Fi support, though). If you are connecting over USB, your device needs USB host support - most recent devices do. Please see the 'Devices' section on our website ( https://dslrcontroller.com/devices.php ) for further information.

    If your camera only supports USB, you can modify a TL-MR3040 to provide a Wi-Fi connection ( http://dslrcontroller.com/guide-wifi_mr3040.php )


    Supported Canon EOS models:

    Newer cameras than listed below are usually supported.

    Full support:
    - 1D Mark IV
    - 1D X
    - 1D X Mark II
    - 5D Mark II
    - 5D Mark III
    - 5D Mark IV
    - 5Ds(r)
    - 50D
    - 500D
    - 550D
    - 6D
    - 60D
    - 600D
    - 650D
    - 7D
    - 7D Mark II
    - 70D
    - 700D
    - 750D
    - 760D
    - 80D
    - 1100D
    - 1200D
    - 1300D
    - 100D

    Limited support:
    - 1D mk III
    - 1Ds mk III
    - 30D
    - 40D
    - 400D
    - 450D
    - 1000D

    No support:
    - pre-2006 models
    - EOS M mirrorless devices (work in progress)


    Let us know which hardware you are using with DSLR Controller!
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    Must-read information

    Screenshots and video:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/about.php

    Download, BETA usage notes, and changelogs:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/download.php

    Table of supported Android devices and Canon EOS DSLRs:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/devices.php

    FAQ:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/faq.php
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    I am a professional architectural photographer and have adopted your DSLR app into my workflow. Thank you for the great design and amazing functionality. It is a pleasure to work with*.

    I would like to know what the future holds for DSLR Contorller. I noticed you are not very active on this forum (last post on 2/26/2015), but wanted to encourage you to keep on developing because I, We need it!!!

    ...
    .

    DSLR Controller was originally built for Android 2.x years ago, and a lot of things have changed both in the camera world as well as the mobile world. Despite bolting on many improvements, the code shows its age. To take it to the next level and get everything I want into it (customizability, compatibility, portability, speed, etc), a lot of the core needs to be changed, the UI needs to be changed (if not in appearance or functionality then certainly how it's been coded), etc. It pretty much comes down to not just overhauling major parts, but completely redoing it from scratch, and rebuilding it as envisioned from the ground up.

    This brings with it a number of issues. It is a lot of development time (and thus money) investment up front, of which you will see no results, until it is almost done. In the mean time, you can't really release anything that isn't up to par with the current version of DSLR Controller, and you can't just replace the current version as old users/devices may no longer be compatible, stranding paying customers. A lot of additional equipment needs to be gotten and tested with to ensure compatibility and portability (remote and end-user testing isn't really workable with apps like these). Not to mention that DSLRs are pretty much doomed, and this is definitely being reflected in daily sales.

    The past year hasn't been very good on a personal level, which isn't your problem of course, but it is one reason for the lapse in development of certain apps. This one adds to the fact that in light of the above, it feels like a waste of resources to spend a lot of time on improvements in the current app. There have been talks with a team (from a big brand in the camera world) to take over the IP, pretty much solving the resource problem, but ultimately that fell through, after the talks taking up a large part of my time for months.

    Also, I know it seems like DSLR Controller has generated a lot of funds, but spread out over the years its been available, subtracting equipment costs, corporate taxes, wage taxes, etc, you wouldn't be able to hire one(!) half-competent coder for the money left at today's going rates, not to mention the risks involved with hiring people. Even though I do get paid and get all these toys to play with, wanting to build it has always been a large part of this, as there are definitely more profitable ways to spend the time. At the same time having to compete with $300 equipment, and people still complaining about the $8 price.

    This app is also a complete nightmare to support, as by far the bulk of the connection issues are not due to the app itself, but due to camera configuration, phone configuration, hardware incompatibilities, firmware incompatibilities, etc. That is, excepting the case where DSLR Controller just hangs, which sometimes (but definitely not always) is an issue with the app. Not to mention the droves of questions and reported issues by people who simply don't understand how their cameras work.

    All of that being said, I do believe there may be a business case where a rebuild with additional features and support for Nikon and/or Sony and/or (insert other brands here) and other OSs like Linux, iOS, OS X, Windows, etc using a shared core may at least break even. That is, providing I can find competent developers to do it (as there is no way I can pull this off by myself), and finding said competent developers with at least somewhat relevant skills might in fact be the biggest problem to solve. Still, even in the best case scenario, I don't believe any work will get started before end-of-summer.

    Don't mistake the lack of visible activity for lack of interest. What to do with DSLR Controller and how to get there is something I consider every day, as in the end, it's still the app I've enjoyed most developing over the years. But if the solution means spending more resources updating the current app, developing a new one, or investing funds to get a whole new company off the ground with a handful of people to cover both major brands and major OSs - that I don't know yet. But I do hope to have an answer to that sooner rather than later.

    (this post was written in a rush as I need to run for another appointment but I didn't want to leave this unsaid, so if it's jumping here and there and not fully coherent, that's why)
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    Hey Chainfire, I was wondering if there was an ETA for the next update? I know asking such things is never liked, Im not looking for a hard date just a rough idea and if there is anything else we can do to help?

    After next week I have three weeks reserved for exclusive DSLR Controller work, if that doesn't finished the upcoming update, I'd be surprised :)
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    The price will go up once v1.0 is reached, but the upgrade is free for those who have this BETA???

    Why can't I see free version?

    Because it's good software and the developer deserves to get paid. Beta doesn't mean it's not valuable, it means that the software isn't very mature or well tested. if you want it now, you pay. If you want to pay once it's well tested and proven then wait.

    Either way, quit your sniveling people. This is an AMAZING deal at that price. If you can afford a DSLR and know how to use it, you can afford 10 times this and would gladly pay it. If you think otherwise, you likely don't need this software to begin with and have nothing to complain about.