I guess we have different understandings of 'example'. I fail to see why the stuff in the N4 repo + the README shouldn't be enough to understand how it's going to work. Adding new interfaces is pretty much straightforward from there.
Got a quote/link for that? I haven't seen anyone shooting down the SD card support patch for camera or the patch for making the SD card the primary storage yet.
There is no such thing as a 'best experience for every user'. More knobs don't necessarily mean better experience.
No, I don't think so, at least if 'those' are thinking about what arcee is trying to convey.
At this point, I don't think furtherly discussing with you about this makes any sense, TBH. You are on a personal mission against arcee and/or against what you think his goals and motivations are, without acknowledging the advantages of the suggested way. I don't feel like I can convince you about those advantages, so it's not a good use of time to argue about it.
(BTW, I was a huge proponent of DeviceParts in the beginning, which was CM7. I think I was even among the first who wrote an actual DeviceParts implementation [DefyParts]. But having seen the ugly code and UI in some DeviceParts instances, I think getting rid of it and merging the useful parts of it into the settings app really is a good idea. IMHO it would be a more productive use of your time gerriting patches for the Note specific interfaces than it is to complain on XDA, as that would actually benefit your users on CM 10.2. But that's obviously up to you to decide.)
Sure, too much talking can be a problem.
To less, could also be bad.
I don't comply with everything said here, but it helped me, to adjust my focus to rethinking year old opinions and ask more for current motivations of "projects".
And, if I only follow maniac's words, still then I question myself, if CM goes in the directions, I want a part of my world to be in. And I don't think so.
So much influence, so much dev power, so good reputation, so great work... and sadly I think, they don't take the responsibility to make the world a better place, instead just concentrating on the own "success".
OK, here come politics, but politics are also a part of our each and own individual reality like CM is. The news showed us that we are in 2013 and not just 1984 anymore... much is lost, privacy hard to maintain... and what does CM? gives us a privacy guard, which isn't one. A false feeling of safety. CM would be better without it. ..ah, wait... then the "consumer" installs less CM.
Yes, that is only one point/ app, but it was an eyeopener for me.
And like anybody else, who isn't active in the AOSP/AOKP/CM/DEV scene, I am not able to invest weeks to get proberly informed to judge for or against CM .. so I rely on own experience like with pguard, some research.. and sure, will be wrong in one or another point of view. But so that's life.
Regarding documentation, the n4 was already sparse due to one individual's personal dislike of device specific settings. I understand it doesn't have proper gamma control, despite that being possible to do (instead simply tweaking colour levels?). Surely the example reference needs to be a device which heavily uses all the different types of settings, including boolean settings, colour levels, touch sensitivity etc.
I mentioned the latter as I know you trivialised it, but for some devices it's pretty essential, especially some tablets.
Regarding CTS, any comments on why everything is going towards trying to pass CTS, regardless of what it removed or compromises? Example being not re-adding the ability to save to an external SD, for the reason that the CTS "rules", which are issued by Google, continue to push everyone away from SD cards, to further their own cloud storage offerings.
You mean like the moderators in the secret moderator forum, the developers in the hidden developer forum, and even the news writers in their secret news writers forum...all making decisions with little to no input from the every day users on XDA?
Come on man, I get that you're pissed off here, but at least make a point that doesn't make you sound so...hypocritical.
*You decide who gets banned and who doesn't in secret moderator forums where no average user has ever been. Why isn't anyone made privy to those discussions?
*The countless development discussions in the secret developer forums that none of us normal people have EVER been a part of. You get mad at CM for having private, hidden discussions...then you have a whole hidden forum for your devs to do the exact same thing.
*The XDA design decisions, rule decisions, etc are all done by like a maximum of 4-6 people.
If you're going to sit there and try to tell all these people that you, yourself, aren't having hidden discussions with other XDA devs in the hidden dev forum about this very incident (and probably another one in the secret moderator forum for that matter) without letting everyone in on it, then forgive me for saying so, but you're full of crap dude. You guys plot behind closed doors more than most governments. Not to mention all the horrible things I've seen you people say about the average user on XDA (and everywhere else for that matter).
I used to be behind those doors and the only thing I walked out of those doors feeling proud about was that I was the only person in any forum back there that put the 5.5 million people in these forums first and you guys didn't. Geez man, find another way to complain.
The problem is that it's a total BS argument in this particular case. The change that removed it was on review for a couple of days and had an insanely long reviewer list. There was no 'one person decides' thing involved here.
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