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Default Gear Manager - Overall Issues!

Well, trying to put some order on one of the most important (yet problematic) app for our Samsung Gear: GEAR MANAGER

Until now (30th Dez 2013) Samsung Gear communicates basically with Gear Manager to configure the overall settings, Samsung Gear launcher, sync settings/multimedia or to receive notifications.

Some of the most important threats (IMO) are:

"gear manager update v1.5.121601" http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2586480

"Unable to reply SMS-es through S-voice" http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=48581831

"Gear Manager Uninstalls Feedly" http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=48582488


As of 30th Dez 2013, Samsung Gear MK7 and Gear Manager v1.5.121601

Issues:

1) Gear Manager v1.5.121601 crashes/freezes when people press "Notifications" and then "More Notifications" (ex: to turn ON Whatsapp or other app notifications) (temporary fix: uninstall v1.5.121601 -> find & install Gear Manager_1.5.120903 apk)

2) My Samsung Gear has Null_ 16 ROM. Before Gear Manager v1.5.121601, when I tried to update my firmware through Gear, it said "no updates (as I have the latest MK7, though with Null_), now it says "your Gear has been modified".

3) S-Voice does not work to answer SMS: A) voice recognition is horrible! B) it tries to send the SMS to a complete different number!!!
Example: I live in Germany, I received an SMS from (example) +49 1 777 55 66 77. When I reply using S-VOICE, the reply fails "Unable to send SMS" as the stupid software through S-Voice replies to (example) (it is sent to 49 1 0000 777 55 66 77 --> WRONG Number!!! FIRST it ignored the "+" and SECOND it added "0000" to the number...)

4) Gear Manager uninstalls Feedly, another companyīs application, and without my consent! (gReader does the trick, but nevertheless... ridiculous!)


What to improve:

1) S-Voice...voice recognition! It is so bad comparing to my Note 3īs S-Voice, that hurts!!!

2) S-Voice capabilities: first I thought that Gearīs S-Voice was just a channel from Note 3īs S-Voice, so it would be (a little) smarter, and could also do some basic web search, etc.... but it doesnīt!!! And so stupid it is...when I try to know the weather in some city that is not the one I am at (or well known like London, Paris, Madrid), it always says the weather to the city I am at! Even "New York" or "Miami" fails! (at least if I speak in German or Spanish)

3) No basic web search....(original software)

4) No basic keyboard writing (original software)

5) No basic RSS / Feedly / Google Translate (original software)

6) No photo/video sharing capabilities to common ways like E-Mail, MMS, Whatsapp, Viber, Facebook,...

7) No standard (-alone) alarm??? what??? (original software) So...if my Note 3 ran out of battery while asleep, my Gear just wonīt sound any alarm, or just do alarms.... No comments.

8) No possibility to turn off the camera sound (original software. Null_ 16 ROM turns this off)

9) Auto-Internet teethering (but with On/Off option)

10) Work on every single (also non-Samsung) Android 4.x or iOS device!!!!


Please be free to add Issues: and What to improve: and, if possible, alternatives/solutions to it that do not mean "hard core" solutions like editing system files and others

Personally I have some questions:
A) with Null_ ROM, is it possible to answer Notifications (SMS/E-Mail/Whatsapp) with keyboard? (I can use the keyboard for other apps, but to the default Gear-Manager-mediated-notifications, despite Null_ ROM, I am still limited to the standard Samsung options)

B) Is there a way to take pictures, and directly send to whatsapp/E-mail? (note that I still want to manage my E-mail/Whatsapp on my phone. I just want to send the pictures and basic answer)

C) Better installable alternative to S-Voice? (with web search, more options, etc)
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1) Sucks. Even clean install doesn't work for me
2) Well, that is the case, not really an issue. How can it update a rom it knows nothing about? Just like phones
3) Super annoying
4) GM removes all apps that it installs (or knows about - app store or sideload or 'sub apks'). it then reinstalls when GM is installed (except sideload for obvious reasons). Feedly developers included something in newer versions to make it interact with GM hence it gets uninstalled


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8) It's a legal thing (same as on phones)
9) I'd rather wifi, and instead of Bluetooth tethering, just access internet using current protocol via the app (similar to google glass)
10) Pebble manages to work fine, no reason this watch needs to use touchwiz


I'd like to hope that next version of watch fixes many things and opens up to other devices. This is first gen after all


Really need a SKD!!! That way we won't need to rely on Samsung to make all the changes that we want - just look at everything you can do on the very simple Pebble


A) You need tablet talk. Have a search for it and sms - plenty of discussion here
B) No - only autotransfer (setting in app on phone) or share to evernote
C) There is a thread here about using autoremote (and I think google now?). Requires a bit of setting up though
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Brendo: thanks, Iīll look into it!

About my B) question "Is there a way to take pictures, and directly send to whatsapp/E-mail?", I partially solved that. If you install a mail client on Gear (I installed K9, as it is very light), when you take a picture, you can directly from Gearīs Camera app share to the E-mail. To Whatsapp... only the "old solution": take the picture and with the phone.
 
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Something I have wondered but not being a developer I cant answer, has any of you clever sparks thought de constructing the gear manager and doing a re write? ie like we have roms we have a new watch controller (notice I didnt say gear manager)
 
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Something I have wondered but not being a developer I cant answer, has any of you clever sparks thought de constructing the gear manager and doing a re write? ie like we have roms we have a new watch controller (notice I didnt say gear manager)
Reverse engineer? It's easy enough to view the source code, but there is a hell of a lot. I guess it could be possible
Samsung Galaxy S IV (i9505) | 16GB
[ROM: Stock JB 4.3 | XXUEML6 | MODEM GSM/LTE: XXUEML4/XXUBMH1 | BL: PRE-KNOX | K: AUSDIM | RECOVERY: PhilZ]
DOMINATION | XPOSED

OTHER DEVICES:
 
Google Nexus 5 | 32GB

Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 (P7310) | 32Gb

[ROM: Jellybean 4.3 | CM10.2 | CPU: 1.4ghz]

Samsung Galaxy TabPro 10.1 (T520) | 16Gb

Pebble (Kickstarter)
Galaxy Gear (Null_)
Google Glass (Explorer)
--------
My Android Downloads
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Something I have wondered but not being a developer I cant answer, has any of you clever sparks thought de constructing the gear manager and doing a re write? ie like we have roms we have a new watch controller (notice I didnt say gear manager)
In theory it is possible, *but* Samsung Gear is not a popular model like other smart watches, as it is not iOS/other Android compatible, and it makes to much trouble (perhaps, I do not know).

An re-written Gear Manager would be wonderful: flaws solved, opened Gear to all 4.x Android, etc... a dream come true.
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