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[REQUEST] [i9500] Invitation to Developers

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18th January 2014, 04:11 PM   |  #1  
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Hey guys,

I have been an active member in the i9500 forum for quite some time now. I'm proud of the way our existing developers have made us a usable, in fact almost stable CM11 ROM. I applaud them for their genuine efforts. But I recently got the Nexus 5 and previously had the Galaxy S3 i9300. Being an avid flasher, I cant help but feel dissatisfied with the level of development we have for our current device.

So what I propose is this. Let's request developers to come and develop for us. Let's send mails, post in other forums, tweet to them and do whatever it takes. We have a solid base in CM already. I'm sure we can have at least some devs who'd be interested in coming and developing and look at this device as a challenge. I have already started this process with inviting Yank (those with S3 would be familiar with his work). He says he's bogged down with other devices but I'm sure if enough of us request him, he'll help us with his work.

Lastly, I'd like to thank @Alberto96, @runedrune, @intervigil, @AndreiLux, @al_iraqi, @iamsachin and everyone else who has contributed to this device.

Please post your thoughts or comments below. Let's take this initiative to make our device supported by maximum number of developers.

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18th January 2014, 04:26 PM   |  #2  
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I agree but i think we should find the best developer's in the whole forum and ask them if they would like to help us if he wants then we should donate to get him an i9500 for the work

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18th January 2014, 04:36 PM   |  #3  
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Let's bring it to the notice of developers of AOKP, Slim ROMs, PAC and others that we have an almost stable CM 11 base rom. I'm sure they'd be interested in supporting another device.

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18th January 2014, 04:49 PM   |  #4  
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What exactly do you want as "development "? I keep seeing such complaints and mostly it's just hot air without ever any concrete feature request or technical insight in what's being demanded.

We don't need development for the sake of development. Other forums are riddled with crap upon crap of ROMs and stuff with everybody doing their own thing, and it's 80% nonsense and useless.

Then there's the nature and demographic of the userbase on this device; which in my opinion leaves much to be desired. I single-handedly brought up all the kernel stuff myself from scratch, but it feels like it didn't matter anyway because there's no audience for it save the few souls who really care. Not to mention <5 donations in the last 5 months, which will certainly cause me to sell this device in the next few months instead of keeping it so that I can offset the next purchase. The US/EU community was much more fun to work with.

So again, what do you really want? There's by now a bug-free AOSP tree and I'm keeping a fully featured kernel up. If you want development then work with the existing people, because frankly asking other devs to come in and magically fulfill your expectations seems overly dismissive of the existing options and reeks a bit of ignorance towards the notion of developments in general.
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18th January 2014, 05:27 PM   |  #5  
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Originally Posted by AndreiLux

What exactly do you want as "development "? I keep seeing such complaints and mostly it's just hot air without ever any concrete feature request or technical insight in what's being demanded.

We don't need development for the sake of development. Other forums are riddled with crap upon crap of ROMs and stuff with everybody doing their own thing, and it's 80% nonsense and useless.

Then there's the nature and demographic of the userbase on this device; which in my opinion leaves much to be desired. I single-handedly brought up all the kernel stuff myself from scratch, but it feels like it didn't matter anyway because there's no audience for it save the few souls who really care. Not to mention <5 donations in the last 5 months, which will certainly cause me to sell this device in the next few months instead of keeping it so that I can offset the next purchase. The US/EU community was much more fun to work with.

So again, what do you really want? There's by now a bug-free AOSP tree and I'm keeping a fully featured kernel up. If you want development then work with the existing people, because frankly asking other devs to come in and magically fulfill your expectations seems overly dismissive of the existing options and reeks a bit of ignorance towards the notion of developments in general.

I respect your work. And I am actually amongst the handful people who use your kernel. But that doesn't mean that I'm happy with having one custom kernel and one custom rom. Every rom has its unique feature and every developer has his own signature. I love PA hybrid and Halo, I love AOKP ribbons and I love The Real Dark Slim. That's why I want these developers to come and develop for us. I thank you for your work and wish you don't abandon this device either. As for donations, I'm sure it's not donations that these developers work for. It's just a reward for them if someone donates.

No disrespect but everyone has their own point of view. Let's not generalize. There are plenty of people using this device. There's as good a user base for this device as there has been for other Sammy devices. Lack of development has in fact deterred people from active participation. Every day I see new and new people commenting on threads of cm 11 because finally we have a stable rom.

If you are offended by something I said, I would suggest you don't follow this thread.

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18th January 2014, 06:28 PM   |  #6  
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Get cash from your hobbies, not the cash that is used to be your hobbies. I dunno what the better english for this as I'm not native speaker. I suggest you andrei to make synapse as a freemium app (some basic features of your kernel is free and for other you must pay or purchase full version apl to configuring it) or make it a full paid app/not free, and it'll give you sum of cash if you doing this as your main source of $. Just my 2cent. Dont flame me.

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19th January 2014, 12:08 AM   |  #7  
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Get cash from your hobbies, not the cash that is used to be your hobbies. I dunno what the better english for this as I'm not native speaker. I suggest you andrei to make synapse as a freemium app (some basic features of your kernel is free and for other you must pay or purchase full version apl to configuring it) or make it a full paid app/not free, and it'll give you sum of cash if you doing this as your main source of $. Just my 2cent. Dont flame me.

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That will not happen due to Google country restriction policy, simple as that.

I'm just justifying why developers won't come to this device from my own experience and perspective. To even consider getting this late into the game makes even less sense.

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But that doesn't mean that I'm happy with having one custom kernel and one custom rom.

I understand the ROM perspective, but still you don't really say what you want for the other.

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It's just a reward for them if someone donates.

Of course it is. It also means that it's unrewarding if nobody does. Like I said, this is plainly due to the demographic of the userbase. It is very very different from the S3/N2, believe me.
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