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[Q] The correct order of root

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17th March 2014, 11:52 AM   |  #1  
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Hi,

I want to root my xperia z1 compact.
As i read, there are few steps that i need to take before rooting my device - backup TA partition, installing CWM, rooting the device.
Both of the CWM/TA backup require that the device will be rooted but if i will root my device without backing up the TA partition i cant go
back and reinstall the stock rom.

What is the correct order of the rooting process?
If the rooting process will get done correctly can i reinstall my stock rom back(for warranty issues)?
What are the downside for rooting - i want it mainly for Titanium backup and the Lba apps?

Thanks for any help!
17th March 2014, 12:19 PM   |  #2  
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2642081

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2634196

If you follow the guide, you should be able to root without Unlocking Bootloader (Which will cause you loosing TA if you Unlock bootloader first)

So, the best way is to Root (Without unlock bootloader) which is in the guidance, then Backup TA, then you can unlock bootloader if you like (to install ROM or other tweaks).

For myself i just need root so i kept the Bootloader lock and have a backup TA just in case.
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17th March 2014, 03:17 PM   |  #3  
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2642081

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2634196

If you follow the guide, you should be able to root without Unlocking Bootloader (Which will cause you loosing TA if you Unlock bootloader first)

If i understood correctly, i will be flashing other rom(previous version in which the root witout unlooking bootloader exploit exsist), to my device.
what will be the effects on my device? will i lose my current device configurations - apps/settings/localization/...? where this change wil be noted?

The process is very complicated and with a lot of "Brick" possibilities, will a more noob friendly version should be expected soon?
17th March 2014, 03:45 PM   |  #4  
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Yes you will lose your data as stated in the guides. There isn't really any brick potential, if you screw something up you should always be able to start over again.
As long as there is no other exploit, there won't be an easier method.
17th March 2014, 03:46 PM   |  #5  
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If i understood correctly, i will be flashing other rom(previous version in which the root witout unlooking bootloader exploit exsist), to my device.
what will be the effects on my device? will i lose my current device configurations - apps/settings/localization/...? where this change wil be noted?

The process is very complicated and with a lot of "Brick" possibilities, will a more noob friendly version should be expected soon?

Hi,

I've rooted my Z1C successfully 2 weeks ago with this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2642081

At step 18 you had to do a factory reset... You should always create a backup. But you're are right, this guide could be more noob friendly

I wish there were some screenshots or more detailed explanations, because after I flashed the first file, I only could see a black screen, a white symbol photo of the Z1C with some japanese (?) characters and the phone doesn't do anything... Can't turn off, can't exit this screen... I was shocked until I see a home screen
17th March 2014, 04:33 PM   |  #6  
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[..] But you're are right, this guide could be more noob friendly

I wish there were some screenshots or more detailed explanations, because after I flashed the first file, I only could see a black screen, a white symbol photo of the Z1C with some japanese (?) characters and the phone doesn't do anything... Can't turn off, can't exit this screen... I was shocked until I see a home screen

If you have some concrete tips I'll be happy to edit the guide
17th March 2014, 05:04 PM   |  #7  
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If you have some concrete tips I'll be happy to edit the guide

Hi,

in my situation it would have been helpful to know following things:
- is it ok to rename the downloaded .ftf files from .zip to .ftf ? --> in my case it was ok, because the windows explorer automatically saves the .ftf file as .zip (also .apk files). --> in your guide, post #8, you wrote that this is not ok.
- as i already wrote in my last post, i thougt my phone got bricked after flashing the first file...
- i got stuck at step 13, installing dualrecovery and got the message "Waiting for device to connect" - in my case everything was configured right on my computer, already checked your tips, but it doesn't work until the fifth restart of my phone... maybe you should also suggest a few restarts when the phone would not be recognized

i've rooted several samsung and google nexus devices, but this phone...

but in general, your guide is really good and helped me!
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17th March 2014, 05:46 PM   |  #8  
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If you have some concrete tips I'll be happy to edit the guide

I will take few days to better understand the process and then i will follow the guide's suggestions, i will post my experience
using the guide after the hopefully successful ending....

Two questions:
how do i do a "factory reset"?
I have no data to lose, so data loss is not an issue for me....

At the hopefully successful ending of the guide which rom do i have?
I want to get back the same device experience i begen the rooting process with....
17th March 2014, 05:56 PM   |  #9  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cohena

I will take few days to better understand the process and then i will follow the guide's suggestions, i will post my experience
using the guide after the hopefully successful ending....

Two questions:
how do i do a "factory reset"?
I have no data to lose, so data loss is not an issue for me....

At the hopefully successful ending of the guide which rom do i have?
I want to get back the same device experience i begen the rooting process with....

Great
I rooted and unlocked the bootloader right after I bought the phone so data loss was also not a problem for me.

Factory reset is located in Recovery Menu under 'Wipe data/factory reset'.
In the end you will have an unbranded UK firmware with root access. There isn't really any difference.
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18th March 2014, 02:15 PM   |  #10  
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In the end you will have an unbranded UK firmware with root access. There isn't really any difference.

What do you mean there is no difference?
What are the diffrences between firmwares? what does firmware means- kernal maybe?

I need to understand if having the uk firmware will cahnge my current "device expereince" - gui, localization. preinstalled apps, or it is
just a change to the os itself without any imapct on the current user interface.

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