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Yes. The Z1 Compact is taking much better photos than my Z1.

And I didn't have a pre production Z1 as noted above but there were rumours the first batch had faulty optics.

All I know is I've been using the Z1 Compact all day today and the quality in superior auto mode has been good.

The Z2 is meant to be even better. A lot better so let's hope so. I won't rush out and buy it. I will wait to see the results first.

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Yes I agree it is taking better photos, but it is NOT a better camera, it's the same.
it's just the compact has updated firmware/software
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Yes I agree it is taking better photos, but it is NOT a better camera, it's the same.
it's just the compact has updated firmware/software
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at first i thought that the problem was with the G lenses so it wouldnt be possible to fix it. since some reviews had issues with it and others havent i thought that it was a production proccess problem, the lack of unifomity on the batches that affected some devices and other not
but after reading this thread and searching in some reviews i am starting to think that its really a software related problem

take a look at these pics
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsim...marena_012.jpg
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsim...marena_014.jpg

they were taken ath the exact same place and position. the first is in superior auto and the second is in normal mode but with HDR

as you can notice, the parking lot, the mall and the trees at the left side of the building are completely blurred in the first picture. but on the second one they are not

of course this is far from being a scientific analysis or a definitive proof, but this could show that sony's algorithm is messing even with the camera focus
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at first i thought that the problem was with the G lenses so it wouldnt be possible to fix it. since some reviews had issues with it and others havent i thought that it was a production proccess problem, the lack of unifomity on the batches that affected some devices and other not
but after reading this thread and searching in some reviews i am starting to think that its really a software related problem

take a look at these pics
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsim...marena_012.jpg
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsim...marena_014.jpg

they were taken ath the exact same place and position. the first is in superior auto and the second is in normal mode but with HDR

as you can notice, the parking lot, the mall and the trees at the left side of the building are completely blurred in the first picture. but on the second one they are not

of course this is far from being a scientific analysis or a definitive proof, but this could show that sony's algorithm is messing even with the camera focus
They really need to fix this issue fast, I don't understand what's really taking them so long to push an update to fix the damn problem in SA, which should let the normal user to take a photo in current situation. Not all the people are techy and when they start comparing the photos with other phones, they are disappointed cause it doesn't do the great job which HTC's 4MP camera does.
 
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A photo from Clove review, click on the image.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/03/11/s...ria-z2-review/



Unfortunately even at 8MP, getting toward the edges and softness creeps in. Not the greatest conditions admittedly, but that's what we got, and edges are again softer than the middle.
 
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A photo from Clove review, click on the image.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/03/11/s...ria-z2-review/



Unfortunately even at 8MP, getting toward the edges and softness creeps in. Not the greatest conditions admittedly, but that's what we got, and edges are again softer than the middle.
I guess I'm gonna wait too to see if all the phones have the same issue or if only some of them are having this issue

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. At 21MP the noise is more because of the increased megapixel count. At 8MP because of downsampling the noise level is still acceptable. Erica Griffin's probably seeing that in action, but if there were soft spots due to the lens then it should be on EVERY picture that is taken.
I personally only take 16:9 pictures , and to be able to do so with the Z2 I would have to choose 15 MP.... a 8 MP (16:9) picture should look identical to a 15 MP (16:9) picture , if I see them on my retina macbook pro, or a UHDTV because the screen resolution is inferior or close to 8 MP , but way inferior to 15 MP, so when the pictures fill the screen, they should look identical , right?

I still don't understand how "downsampling" difers from simple resizing

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