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[Q] confused with the right procedure for flashing a custom rom

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18th April 2014, 10:26 AM   |  #1  
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hello,
after reading almost everything i could read on the forums about the procedure of flashing roms, i'm left with a few questions that i couldn't find answers to, or i found more then one answer.I read all the following, and more:

1. [GUIDE] All-in-One Defy Beginner's guide by Zephyrot here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1216982
2. [JB] CM10 Android 4.1.2 for the Defy(+) by Quarx here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1768702
3. [GUIDE][KitKat][CM11] Updating to 4.4 by coolshahabaz here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2568325
4. [Kitkat][Nightlies] CM11 Android 4.4 for the Defy(+) by Quarx here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2515036
5. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2597719
6. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2644812
7. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...97&postcount=3
8. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...44&postcount=4

My devicee is a Defy+ with Gingerbread 2.3.6. I found here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=28 "Android 2.3.6 Blur_Version.45.0.1610.MB526.Partner.en.IL" rom which is supposed to be my stock rom.

1. My main concern is always to keep the option to go back to stock rom. As i read here, this might be a problem with Defy+, but only if i flash SBF files, which i dont plan to. Is it correct that i will be able to flash the stock rom with RDS_lite, motorola drivers and bootloader (power up with VOL up) at any time?

questions about recovery:
2. I understand that i need TWRP 2.3.6 in order to flash new roms, and since recovery is protected in Defy, i must use 2nd_init to bypass stock recovery. Is 2nd_init include the custom recovery in it? if so, which one? and what version?
3. can i install CWM or TWRP without using 2nd_init?
4. What is rom_manager (for CWM) or goo.im (for TWRP) and do i really need them?
5. what is update_recovery.zip mentioned as part of the procedure here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2515036 does it update the custom recovery or the stock recovery? is it really needed since some of the procedures described above skip this step?

choosing a custom rom:
6. I'm looking for adnroid 4.4. what is the difference between this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2597719 (AOSP Android 4.4 for the Defy(+)) and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2515036 (CM11 Android 4.4 for the Defy(+))
7. If i want a as-close-as-possible to google original kitkat 4.4, which one should i use?

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Roy.
18th April 2014, 06:51 PM   |  #2  
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I have some of the same questions you have... will follow this topic, hoping for some info! thx!
18th April 2014, 07:28 PM   |  #3  
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1. You can always go back to stock ROM using RSDLite. There is no such problem with the Defy+.

2. After rooting, install the 2ndinit app to install ClockworkMod recovery (which is now outdated). Then reboot, and flash this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1250 in the recovery. This way you will get TWRP recovery required to flash newer ROMs such as 4.4.x ROMs.

3. The 2ndinit app installs custom recovery. This info is clearly given in Zephyrot's guide -
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Here is where 2nd Init comes to play, this little awesome app kicks in right after the Bootloader and allows the Defy to load a different, non-Stock Android.
With this, you can also install a Custom Recovery, which runs from the Internal Memory, and is not ran from the Recovery Partition (remember: locked, not accessible) what does this means? That even screwing up your phone, deleting all your stuff, or screwing /system partition the phone can still get into Recovery, be recognized by RSD Lite in Bootloader Mode and be flashed with a Stock or modified Rom (more on this later) and it will come back to live normally.

4. You don't need them.

5. None of the recovery updates touch the stock recovery. The stock recovery is built-in, and due to the locked bootloader, it cannot be removed or modified. For 4.4.x ROMs, it is sufficient to follow step 2. This guide explains the steps for installing KitKat - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2568325.

6. The AOSP ROM is severely outdated, I recommend you to try SlimKat or CM. AOSP is pure android (stock android you find in Nexus devices).

7. Using CM or Slimkat is sufficient. Also there is no 'Best ROM'. It depends on the user's opinion and requirement.
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20th April 2014, 12:12 PM   |  #4  
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1. You can always go back to stock ROM using RSDLite. There is no such problem with the Defy+.

2. After rooting, install the 2ndinit app to install ClockworkMod recovery (which is now outdated). Then reboot, and flash this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1250 in the recovery. This way you will get TWRP recovery required to flash newer ROMs such as 4.4.x ROMs.

3. The 2ndinit app installs custom recovery. This info is clearly given in Zephyrot's guide -


4. You don't need them.

5. None of the recovery updates touch the stock recovery. The stock recovery is built-in, and due to the locked bootloader, it cannot be removed or modified. For 4.4.x ROMs, it is sufficient to follow step 2. This guide explains the steps for installing KitKat - http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2568325.

6. The AOSP ROM is severely outdated, I recommend you to try SlimKat or CM. AOSP is pure android (stock android you find in Nexus devices).

7. Using CM or Slimkat is sufficient. Also there is no 'Best ROM'. It depends on the user's opinion and requirement.

Many many thks!
Im trying to up to CM 11 from 2 months.Now Im on 10.0(4.1.2).Every try to update recovery with "update-recovery.zip" or TWRP 2.6.3.0 finished with bootloop or without custom recovery and balck screen.And them flash stock .sbf and start all from the begining.And try and try....In your guide it have link to update recovery.It have something about 30+ seconds waiting after TWRP update.So I try.
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