Speed Up Deodexing with JoelDroid Batch Deodexer

Android 5.0 Lollipop brings many under-the-hood changes like changing the default compiler … more

Top 5 Apps for 2014 + Top Xposed Mod of 2014 – XDA TV

Its that time of year where you look back and remember the things that happened … more

NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet Gets Android 5.0.1, OTA Available

The NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet is the latest Android-powered device released by famed GPU … more

FXP Team Delivers Lollipop to Various Xperia Devices!

From all of us here at XDA-Developers, we’d like to wish you Happy Holidays! If … more

Welcome to XDA

Search to go directly to your device's forum

Register an account

Unlock full posting privileges

Ask a question

No registration required
Post Reply

Will Nexus 7 get kernel 3.10?

OP SkOrPn

13th May 2014, 02:16 AM   |  #1  
SkOrPn's Avatar
OP Senior Member
Flag Albuquerque, NM
Thanks Meter: 549
 
2,016 posts
Join Date:Joined: Jun 2007
Donate to Me
More
And if so, how much longer do you think? Have you seen any hints or rumors plastered on the net? Do you have any links to evidence of 3.10 coming? Are we missing out on anything of importance that 3.10 brings?

Does anyone know why we are still on 3.1, which was released in 2011? I thought Nexus devices got all the good stuff first... Or are only custom roms and kernels using 3.1?
13th May 2014, 07:24 AM   |  #2  
Junior Member
Thanks Meter: 4
 
23 posts
Join Date:Joined: May 2011
More
Android devices rarely get new kernel versions anyway since the kernels tend to be customized to work with a specific device, and the binary drivers are built for a specific version of the kernel. This is not as bad as it sounds tho, since a lot of stuff can be backported meaning you get functionality from a newer kernel without the actual kernel version changing. Even more common with custom kernels. For example there's ROMs for our device that uses the F2FS file system which first appeared in the 3.8 kernel and gotten big changes every version after that, and it runs just fine backported to the 3.1 kernel.
13th May 2014, 07:31 AM   |  #3  
SkOrPn's Avatar
OP Senior Member
Flag Albuquerque, NM
Thanks Meter: 549
 
2,016 posts
Join Date:Joined: Jun 2007
Donate to Me
More
Quote:
Originally Posted by hencke

Android devices rarely get new kernel versions anyway since the kernels tend to be customized to work with a specific device, and the binary drivers are built for a specific version of the kernel. This is not as bad as it sounds tho, since a lot of stuff can be backported meaning you get functionality from a newer kernel without the actual kernel version changing. Even more common with custom kernels. For example there's ROMs for our device that uses the F2FS file system which first appeared in the 3.8 kernel and gotten big changes every version after that, and it runs just fine backported to the 3.1 kernel.

Ok, so this quote here from Linux.com about commits that look like they are made for Nexus 7 2012, is just wishful thinking? I hope not because 3.10 is a massive jump in technology, and possibly even in performance for our device.

Quote:

there are architecture-specific commits for 3.10 in the kernel/tegra project, which points to development for the 2012 Nexus 7.

http://www.linux.com/news/embedded-m...0-linux-kernel

EDIT: Ok, I see now, so many new things from 3.4 and 3.8 may already be in our 3.1 custom kernels? If Google releases a 3.10 for the N7 I hope our devs take advantage of it, instead of porting things over to 3.1. I'd like to see our device get Android 5.0 and kernel 3.10, that would really make me feel like this was one of the best investments I have ever made.
Last edited by SkOrPn; 13th May 2014 at 07:47 AM.
13th May 2014, 07:54 AM   |  #4  
Junior Member
Thanks Meter: 4
 
23 posts
Join Date:Joined: May 2011
More
As I said, lots of the improvements from newer kernels have already been backported so there wouldn't be as big a difference in performance as you might think. The tegra commits are interesting, but sadly does not confirm anything. For example, the android police article on those same commits mentions that screenshots from the nexus 4 and 5 with the new android version still show them on kernel 3.4. The chance that the 2012 nexus 7 would get a kernel update while the nexus 5 seems awefully slim. I hope I'm wrong tho, since I think it would make things simpler for the custom kernel developers to base stuff on a newer kernel but I wouldn't get my hopes up...
The Following User Says Thank You to hencke For This Useful Post: [ View ]
13th May 2014, 08:08 AM   |  #5  
SkOrPn's Avatar
OP Senior Member
Flag Albuquerque, NM
Thanks Meter: 549
 
2,016 posts
Join Date:Joined: Jun 2007
Donate to Me
More
Quote:
Originally Posted by hencke

As I said, lots of the improvements from newer kernels have already been backported so there wouldn't be as big a difference in performance as you might think. The tegra commits are interesting, but sadly does not confirm anything. For example, the android police article on those same commits mentions that screenshots from the nexus 4 and 5 with the new android version still show them on kernel 3.4. The chance that the 2012 nexus 7 would get a kernel update while the nexus 5 seems awefully slim. I hope I'm wrong tho, since I think it would make things simpler for the custom kernel developers to base stuff on a newer kernel but I wouldn't get my hopes up...

Ok, thanks for making it a little more clearer to me. I kept thinking our 3.1 kernel from 2011 was holding us back from getting one last great update. I think features are no longer needed and I just want them to push performance as far as this thing can be taken. So with ART and F2FS finally coming, I was hoping a better kernel would grace us as well. lol, but it looks like a newer kernel wouldn't do much that the devs haven't already done.

Thanks buddy for jumping in and clearing some of that up for me.
13th May 2014, 12:26 PM   |  #6  
Monfro's Avatar
Senior Member
Flag Mantova (Italy)
Thanks Meter: 966
 
1,105 posts
Join Date:Joined: Jul 2009
More
Nvidia released their kernel 3.4.35 for tegra3
Post Reply Subscribe to Thread
Previous Thread Next Thread
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes