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[Q] N9005 or N900T and other confusions !

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13th May 2014, 03:42 PM   |  #1  
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Good Day all !

I am resident of India and looking forward to buying a SD variant of Note 3 aka n900t or n9005.

My confusion stems from number of reason

1) I would be soon moving to Canada ( Vancouver Island ) and hence require LTE or atleast 3g to work there.
2) I am an active firmware flasher and would prefer a device with a bootloader unlocked.

These are the following 2 options where i can buy from ( Remove dot and add " . " )

n9005 variant (UK model)

ebay(dot)in/itm/121340307949

or

n900t variant

ebay(dot)in/itm/NEW-Samsung-Galaxy-Note3-N900T-32GB-T-Mobile-4G-LTE-1-Yr-Seller-Wty-Black-COLOUR-/231223375840?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item35d5fcb7 e0&_uhb=1

Now from what i understand N9005 bootloader is locked ? and doesnt have the required frequencies to get data on Canadian networks?

The n900t listing apparently only has a software unlock and doesnt have a factory unlock hence it needs to be unlocked again incase the update disables it so I am slightly less inclined towards it. However looking at all aspects I am ready to pick it up if its better value preposition as compared to n9005 based on my preferences,

Please advice.
13th May 2014, 09:44 PM   |  #2  
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N900T will give you LTE coverage in the US and Canada as they both use band 4 and 7 for LTE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks)

Here is the full list of n900t bands:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS: Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850)
LTE: Band 4 (1700), Band 17 (700), Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600)

As for your n9005 questions, you can read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2458539

Seems like N900T is the better answer here as it will give you hspa+ in india, and 3g/hspa+/LTE in canada and the US, while having an unlocked bootloader. As long as its SIM / Region unlocked, which is fairly easy to do.
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13th May 2014, 09:52 PM   |  #3  
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N900T will give you LTE coverage in the US and Canada as they both use band 4 and 7 for LTE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks)

Here is the full list of n900t bands:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 UMTS: Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 4 (1700), Band 5 (850)
LTE: Band 4 (1700), Band 17 (700), Band 1 (2100), Band 2 (1900), Band 5 (850), Band 7 (2600)

As for your n9005 questions, you can read through this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2458539

Seems like N900T is the better answer here as it will give you hspa+ in india, and 3g/hspa+/LTE in canada and the US, while having an unlocked bootloader. As long as its SIM / Region unlocked, which is fairly easy to do.

Ah that's a perfect reply. I did compare lte bands but well it looked n9005 had more bands and lol so thought it may have better comaptibility. Any way t-mobile note 3 it is.

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13th May 2014, 10:06 PM   |  #4  
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Originally Posted by strangeprotocol

Good Day all !

I am resident of India and looking forward to buying a SD variant of Note 3 aka n900t or n9005.

My confusion stems from number of reason

1) I would be soon moving to Canada ( Vancouver Island ) and hence require LTE or atleast 3g to work there.
2) I am an active firmware flasher and would prefer a device with a bootloader unlocked.

These are the following 2 options where i can buy from ( Remove dot and add " . " )

n9005 variant (UK model)

ebay(dot)in/itm/121340307949

or

n900t variant

ebay(dot)in/itm/NEW-Samsung-Galaxy-Note3-N900T-32GB-T-Mobile-4G-LTE-1-Yr-Seller-Wty-Black-COLOUR-/231223375840?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item35d5fcb7 e0&_uhb=1

Now from what i understand N9005 bootloader is locked ? and doesnt have the required frequencies to get data on Canadian networks?

The n900t listing apparently only has a software unlock and doesnt have a factory unlock hence it needs to be unlocked again incase the update disables it so I am slightly less inclined towards it. However looking at all aspects I am ready to pick it up if its better value preposition as compared to n9005 based on my preferences,

Please advice.


There is also the option of N900W8, which has certain advantages (I think it has the 1900 band which N900T does not but instead has 1700, also W8 has a "friendlier" bootloader).

You should also check the 3G/4G coverage in the area under discussion - as far as I know in cities coverage is OK but in other places the coverage is poor.
13th May 2014, 10:18 PM   |  #5  
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There is also the option of N900W8, which has certain advantages (I think it has the 1900 band which N900T does not but instead has 1700, also W8 has a "friendlier" bootloader).

You should also check the 3G/4G coverage in the area under discussion - as far as I know in cities coverage is OK but in other places the coverage is poor.


Well unfortunately n900w8 is not avaible in India and getting it through negrielectronics or overseas would be cumbersome. The safest is to go get via ebay in India. So do you thing because of missing 1900 band n900t will have issues with getting 3g everywhere. I am least concerned bout LTE and pretty satisfied with 3g speeds .
13th May 2014, 10:19 PM   |  #6  
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Good point, I was about to edit my post to say something like that. OP should be considering N900T vs N900w8 model, which is made for Canada. I did a little initial ready and it looks like N900T is compatible with canadian carriers, but you absolutely have to root it and flash different modems on it to make it work flawlessly. It also depends on which carrier you go with in Canada - bell / telus / wind etc.
There is some discussion on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2529972

So yeah, be prepared to do some tinkering with modems.
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14th May 2014, 09:56 AM   |  #7  
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Good point, I was about to edit my post to say something like that. OP should be considering N900T vs N900w8 model, which is made for Canada. I did a little initial ready and it looks like N900T is compatible with canadian carriers, but you absolutely have to root it and flash different modems on it to make it work flawlessly. It also depends on which carrier you go with in Canada - bell / telus / wind etc.
There is some discussion on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2529972

So yeah, be prepared to do some tinkering with modems.


I am not even 100% convinced you can cross-flash modems, more research would be needed on that direction if the decision is based on that.

However regarding the precise bands - I know that most carriers have the coverage maps available on their websites, so the original poster could look on that and select a carrier, then check the precise bands.
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14th May 2014, 07:28 PM   |  #8  
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I am not even 100% convinced you can cross-flash modems, more research would be needed on that direction if the decision is based on that.

However regarding the precise bands - I know that most carriers have the coverage maps available on their websites, so the original poster could look on that and select a carrier, then check the precise bands.

Well what only concerns me is whether if n900t will get 3g speeds atleast across all the carriers or will n9005 have that scenario. I am not really bothered bout LTE. By the does n9005 uk devices bootloader unlocked?
I am not really thinking of cross flashing various modems if its possible all i just want a device which gets data better than 2g speeds. I have been through various threadsper given links and other research prior and well everywhere there are conflicting reports.

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