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25th May 2014, 12:56 PM   |  #1  
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Im rooted on 4.4 stock. I am not happy with KK and was wanting to downgrade to either 4.3 or earlier

Ive searched, and cant find a definitive answer that im comfortable enough with to proceed, so I'll ask bluntly

Is it safe to downgrade from 4.4 to an earlier version if i use a stock TAR and Odin? Will I have modem issues if I do?

If I can, which is less problematic? 4.3? 4.1?
25th May 2014, 03:44 PM   |  #2  
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Absolutely not. Flashing through ODIN will flash a bootloader, as well. Flashing bootloaders that are older than the one you're currently on will cause Knox to run the killswitch in your device.

In other words, you'll be the proud owner of a very expensive paperweight.

It would be better to flash a rooted stock zip of an older TouchWiz ROM through recovery. That way it won't overwrite your bootloader.

Never mess with a Knox infected bootloader.

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25th May 2014, 11:41 PM   |  #3  
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Thanks for your help!

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26th May 2014, 12:04 AM   |  #4  
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Of course, when you went to 4.4, did you take the OTA? You should be sure that do you, in fact, have Knox.

If you go into download mode by holding the power+home+vol down buttons, you should no longer see a flash counter.

Rather it would read like 0x0 or 0x1.

If you don't have a Knox bootloader, then you can ODIN to an older version. Just make sure what you're flashing does not contain a Knox bootloader.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/att...p_-300x224.jpg


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26th May 2014, 12:36 AM   |  #5  
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Originally Posted by Higgs_Boson

Of course, when you went to 4.4, did you take the OTA? You should be sure that do you, in fact, have Knox.

If you go into download mode by holding the power+home+vol down buttons, you should no longer see a flash counter.

Rather it would read like 0x0 or 0x1.

If you don't have a Knox bootloader, then you can ODIN to an older version. Just make sure what you're flashing does not contain a Knox bootloader.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/att...p_-300x224.jpg


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I used ODIN to flash 4.4

My whole issue is that the modem on 4.4 sucks as does the battery life. I was wanting to flash something less crappy

---------- Post added at 07:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:29 PM ----------

I found this:
http://techbeasts.com/2014/01/17/how...note-2-note-3/

Havent tried it, not sure if its any good.
26th May 2014, 12:41 AM   |  #6  
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Just go into your download/Odin mode and compare your screen with the picture in my previous post. If you see Knox, then proceed with caution.

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26th May 2014, 02:05 AM   |  #7  
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Will do. Thanks again! Very much appreciated

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---------- Post added at 09:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:57 PM ----------

Here's what I've got:
Odin Mode
Product name sph l710
Current binary: custom
System Status: custom
Qualcomm secure boot: enable
Warranty Bit 1 (red text)
Bootloader ap swrev 2

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26th May 2014, 05:05 AM   |  #8  
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Originally Posted by jacknmary

I found this:
http://techbeasts.com/2014/01/17/how...note-2-note-3/

Knox for 4.4 is more resilient than for 4.3. The information at that link only applies to 4.3.


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Qualcomm secure boot: enable
Warranty Bit 1 (red text)
Bootloader ap swrev 2

If you're on TouchWiz KitKat, whether through Odin or OTA, you've got Knox, so no doubt.

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26th May 2014, 07:41 AM   |  #9  
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In addition to Rode Warrior's post, once you're on the ND8 bootloader and modem, you're stuck with them. Trying to revert back to older modems/bootloaders will break the radio/hard brick.

You can still flash ROMs. That may help battery life. But, they will have to use the ND8 modem.

Also, the "Warranty Bit 1" in red text signifies that you are Knox'ed up. Join the club.

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26th May 2014, 11:55 AM   |  #10  
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Its nice to utilize a forum where the replies arent snide or condescending!

Thank you both for your insight!

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