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I get the "can" but what I don't get is the "would." You have a phone right next to you that does everything you mentioned infinitely better. Why would you use a 1.8" display to review or post on Facebook when you a 5+" display available? It's like having a SUV and a coupe in your garage. Why would you use choose the coupe over the SUV to take four people and their luggage on a trip? Personally, I have 1.8", 5.7", and 10.1" mobile devices. Each stand-out as better for specific things. There are things I could do on all three but I'd still pick the most appropriate whenever possible. In the case of the Gear because it relies on a host there's always two choices available and rarely would the Gear running the way you described be the best one. Of the things you mentioned, can you point out any that you'd pick the Gear over your phone for? I'm just curious why you and others that keep talking about using thousands of Android apps on the Gear would actually want/need to. I'm sure running full Android on the Gear is great entertainment at parties but I can barely hit the three app icons on the clock face when I'm walking or running through an airport. And those situations are where I most rely on my Gear.
 
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Try pulling an S4 Zoom out of you pocket in a hurry to answer a call, or for any other reason for that matter. Or in the case of those that are military, pulling out that S5 or Note is a no-no, but looking at your watch is ok.
 
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Try pulling an S4 Zoom out of you pocket in a hurry to answer a call, or for any other reason for that matter. Or in the case of those that are military, pulling out that S5 or Note is a no-no, but looking at your watch is ok.
What does an S4 Zoom have to do with either using the Gear as a full-Android device or using the smartphone it's tethered to instead? Unless you're saying in cases where a Zoom and Gear are paired together using the Gear as an alternative makes sense. But who the hell uses a Zoom as a primary phone any way? Out of all my tech-oriented friends and co-workers I don't even know any one that has or is considering a Zoom. As for the military the "no-no" on smartphones is for security reasons. Circumventing it by using a Gear so no one knows is a great way to cut a military career short. Interesting answers but probably apply to less than 5% of the people here saying they use the Gear as a full-Android device.
 
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What does an S4 Zoom have to do with either using the Gear as a full-Android device or using the smartphone it's tethered to instead? Unless you're saying in cases where a Zoom and Gear are paired together using the Gear as an alternative makes sense. But who the hell uses a Zoom as a primary phone any way? Out of all my tech-oriented friends and co-workers I don't even know any one that has or is considering a Zoom. As for the military the "no-no" on smartphones is for security reasons. Circumventing it by using a Gear so no one knows is a great way to cut a military career short. Interesting answers but probably apply to less than 5% of the people here saying they use the Gear as a full-Android device.
Lets say you need a phone and a camera and have very limited space. Find one smartphone that at 10x that even matches the Zoom. You won't because there isn't one. Not even the +30MP Pureview come close. Even at 5x there is nothing.

Due to it's size, pulling it out of your pocket is a pain so having a smartwatch that can move as much of you commonly access data to you wrist is needed. The Gear's stock Android firmware takes care of most of this but not all so Null is needed. Unless Tizen grows up really quick, full Android is the only reasonable option.

Digital zoom is for idiots and unless you don't care about quality or want to spend a ton of time in post a phone with optical zoom is needed. This leaves either a real camera, like the Fuji X-Pro1, that you have to carry around all the time or the Zoom.

I am that less than 5% and I use the Zoom as my primary. Until a month ago I was running Ubuntu for Android (A.K.A. Ubuntop not the chroot method) for everything from web surfing to website maintenance and updates as well as Android ROM development and MODs/Patches. I needed either a decent camera and full standalone smartwatch OR what I ended up with which was the Zoom/Gear combo.

Are you military? I know military personnel (stationed at NB San Diego) from E-3 all the way up to OF-4 that use the Gear on a regular basis, on base, during the regular "work day". My wife is the only NCO in her command that doesn't use a Gear. BTW smartphones are authorized just not in secure areas.
 
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Android on the GG1 is now dead. There will be no OS or app updates from Samsung and having known of Samsung's strategy to move the GG1 to Tizen for some time app developers abandoned Android months ago. Tizen for the GG1 has been rolled out to 72 regions in three days. That's the fastest I've ever seen Samsung push-out an update. With the exception of the U.S., it's now fully deployed globally. From this point forward any issues reported to Samsung support will be met with "you need to upgrade to Tizen." So people can stay on Android on the GG1 for as long as they want but the platform itself will die of intentional neglect on Samsung's part. There are only two downsides to Tizen. The loss of swipe up/down from the clock screen to open the camera and a user-selected app and the limited number of apps available. With the GG1 joining the GG2 family on Tizen the latter should/can be corrected as there will be 1M Samsung wearable devices on Tizen now which is a large and attractive audience for developers.

As for "franken-watching" the GG1 on Android like you described, to each their own. To many of us, doing full-size Android "stuff" on a 1.86" display and 800MHz SoC in an uncomfortable position doesn't make a lot of sense. Just because stuff like below can be done doesn't mean it's either effective or practical. Especially when you have a full-size device with a 1080P 5+" display and quad/eight-core SoC nearby. So for those that view their GG1 as a hobby, you're pretty much stuck on Android with what you've currently got being what you'll be living with until the end of time as more XDA devs start to play with and modify Tizen like they did with Android. XDA isn't an Android forum, it's a mobile device forum and going "pffff" at Tizen isn't going to make it go away.




Well I'm sorry I insulted you with my expression pal, so much that you had to write this whole post for it.

I dont play any games on my GG, thats silly. Im sticking to android for now as we have a modified stock rom to run different launchers, use live wallpapers, set different wallpapers, receive and sent SMS from the watch by using a fully functional keyboard if I choose to, use bluetooth tethering to use google voice search, use hangouts to chat if needed, all of these while still retaining the full functionality and features that samsung made for the watch.

We will see how much tizen grows in the future. I believe the biggest challenge for tizen will be to overcome what google wear will do with a smart watch. It will also be interesting to see how tizen is affected with the rumored upcoming "Gear Wear"


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Well I'm sorry I insulted you with my expression pal, so much that you had to write this whole post for it.
There are a bunch of people here and in the general forum that put down people who use the Gear as it's intended and make it seem that only the "cool kids" are smart enough to see the light and use their watch as a full-scale Android device. I think what people here have done beyond what the Gear's intended to do is amazing. Not finding it appealing doesn't make people stupid or inferior. Every in-built app on Tizen is superior to its Android equivalent which for those that use the Gear stock is reason enough to upgrade. Just like not moving off Android to keep your Gear's ability to be a full-Android device is important to you. To each their own.

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I believe the biggest challenge for tizen will be to overcome what google wear will do with a smart watch. It will also be interesting to see how tizen is affected with the rumored upcoming "Gear Wear"
Android Wear, like Google Now, is dependent on using Google's stock apps including Gmail. With Google getting creapier and creapier in their data collection for marketing profiling, people are becoming less trusting. Whenever possible I use non-Google solutions (EG: personal Exchange account) and more and more of my tech savvy friends are too. The success of Android Wear vs. Samsung/Tizen will be determined by the masses. With all the negative press Google's been getting about their behavior I'd imagine the masses are at some point going to grow skeptical about getting in even deeper with them. Nexus (Google), HTC, Motorola, Sony, and LG lost the smartphone market to Samsung. It's a bit presumptive to think Android Wear is going to fair any better in the wearables space. Time will tell.
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