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25th June 2014, 07:45 PM   |  #1  
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This is my first smartphone, I'm just too new at this... its information overload.

I have a SAMSUNG-SM-G900V (Verizon)

For now all I want to do is backup (Odin?) all I have on my phone so I can undo any changes and have a backup. THEN try to root with towelroot once I'm sure it will work.

I was reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2699648

This is what confused me so I stopped:

" Step 3. Download an ODIN flashable recovery onto your PC"

What is that? Where do I get it? Do I still need to do any of this if I am going to use towelroot?

Thanks in advance for help.
25th June 2014, 07:49 PM   |  #2  
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Take a look here

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2700073

It says noob friendly.

and here

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2719906

If you want step by step instructions install this

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2719834

The paid version gives you lots of features.

It should be more than enough to get you started.

Good luck.


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Originally Posted by Cuss Fan

This is my first smartphone, I'm just too new at this... its information overload.

I have a SAMSUNG-SM-G900V (Verizon)

For now all I want to do is backup (Odin?) all I have on my phone so I can undo any changes and have a backup. THEN try to root with towelroot once I'm sure it will work.

I was reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2699648

This is what confused me so I stopped:

" Step 3. Download an ODIN flashable recovery onto your PC"

What is that? Where do I get it? Do I still need to do any of this if I am going to use towelroot?

Thanks in advance for help.

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25th June 2014, 07:49 PM   |  #3  
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But custom recovery trip Knox.
25th June 2014, 07:52 PM   |  #4  
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But custom recovery trip Knox.

I don't want to trip KNOX. There is no way to do a backup or recovery without tripping KNOX?
25th June 2014, 08:01 PM   |  #5  
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I don't want to trip KNOX. There is no way to do a backup or recovery without tripping KNOX?

That is correct. A custom recovery which will let you do a backup will trip KNOX when you install it.

Unless there is a solution to reset KNOX discovered we're stuck with tripped KNOX or stock recoveries.
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That is correct. A custom recovery which will let you do a backup will trip KNOX when you install it.

Unless there is a solution to reset KNOX discovered we're stuck with tripped KNOX or stock recoveries.

Thank you for the quick reply. What is the difference between a stock and custom recovery? Little confusing...
25th June 2014, 08:07 PM   |  #7  
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Thank you for the quick reply. What is the difference between a stock and custom recovery? Little confusing...

A stock recovery will only allow you to factory reset, clear the cache, or install signed update.zip files. This means that you cannot do anything custom (like an unofficial rom, tweak, or anything else not samsung signed.) you cannot use it to make nandroid backups, nor can you use it to recover nandroid backups.

A custom recovery allows unsigned flashing, backups, restores, and more.
25th June 2014, 08:09 PM   |  #8  
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A stock recovery will only allow you to factory reset, clear the cache, or install signed update.zip files. This means that you cannot do anything custom (like an unofficial rom, tweak, or anything else not samsung signed.) you cannot use it to make nandroid backups, nor can you use it to recover nandroid backups.

A custom recovery allows unsigned flashing, backups, restores, and more.

In your opinion should I wait until a custom recovery that doesnt trip KNOX and do all the things you mentioned is out before I do anything?
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In your opinion should I wait until a custom recovery that doesnt trip KNOX and do all the things you mentioned is out before I do anything?

From what I've heard the knox fuse is sort of a one-time deal. It might not be circumvented. Personally I treat my phone very well and after verifying it worked properly, I picked up a case and rooted+installed a custom recovery. I don't really care about my Knox warranty status. It's certainly something you need to decide personally.

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