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This is just a public service announcement regarding the Amazon Fire Phone's potential hackability based on Amazon's history.

Will it get root?
Most likely. Everything gets root eventually.

Will it get GApps?
Amazon did one hell of a job preventing people from getting GApps on the Kindle Fire HDXs by squeezing down the partition sizes and adding functions in system apps to keep Google apps from functioning properly. So maybe yes, maybe no.

Will it get a bootloader unlock?
Based on Amazon's not so good history of allowing the customization of devices, this may never get a bootloader unlock. They do a pretty good job at locking everything down, I must add.

So, in case you were too lazy to read the above, if you plan on bootloader unlocking this thing and installing the Google Play Store or CyanogenMod fresh out of the box, I would recommend searching elsewhere. The HTC One M8, perhaps, which has slightly better specs anyways.

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This is just a public service announcement regarding the Amazon Fire Phone's hackability.

Will it get root?
Most likely. Everything gets root eventually.

Will it get GApps?
Amazon did one hell of a job preventing people from getting GApps on the Kindle Fire HDXs by squeezing down the partition sizes and adding functions in system apps to keep Google apps from functioning properly. So maybe yes, maybe not.

Will it get a bootloader unlock?
Based on Amazon's not so good history of allowing the customization of devices, this may never get a bootloader unlock. They do a pretty good job at locking everything down, I must add.

So, in case you were too lazy to read the above, if you plan on bootloader unlocking this thing and installing the Google Play Store or CyanogenMod fresh out of the box, I would search elsewhere. The HTC One M8, perhaps, which has slightly better specs anyways.
Do we know if the device has a removable battery?

Micro-SD?

Dual-sim?

AT&T is the first initial carrier - IMO this does not bode well for unlocked bootloader citing AT&T history, and Amazon's own history (as you mentioned with the HDXs.)
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Do we know if the device has a removable battery?



Micro-SD?



Dual-sim?



AT&T is the first initial carrier - IMO this does not bode well for unlocked bootloader citing AT&T history, and Amazon's own history (as you mentioned with the HDXs.)

Those three are unknown by me.

Even if you were to buy it off-contract, it would still most likely be locked. Amazon is the only manufacturer that I know if that does this.


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Do we know if the device has a removable battery?

Micro-SD?

Dual-sim?

AT&T is the first initial carrier - IMO this does not bode well for unlocked bootloader citing AT&T history, and Amazon's own history (as you mentioned with the HDXs.)
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Do we know if the device has a removable battery?

Micro-SD?

Dual-sim?

AT&T is the first initial carrier - IMO this does not bode well for unlocked bootloader citing AT&T history, and Amazon's own history (as you mentioned with the HDXs.)
It's a single nano-sim, no micro-sd slot, permanent battery, and it will be able to be unlocked by at&t, not amazon, but not likely for a few months (through at&t, not sure about third-parties)

P.S. Personally I think the OS is goofy and not very intuitive. It definitely has a few cool visuals, but not in any kind of useful or innovative way. I was expecting a much cooler UI considering it has 6 cameras. It doesn't have a home screen, widgets or any real ways to customize it.
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I will have my Fire Phone sometime in the next 12 hours. It's presently at my local UPS station waiting to get put on a truck for delivery. I don't know what possessed me to buy it. However, I wanted something different and my Galaxy S3 has been acting up big time. I will say, their free year of Amazon Prime offer was very tempting due to the sheer amount of buying I do each month from Amazon. I'm hoping GApps, especially GMail, will be supported somehow. Time will tell and, like I said, I wanted something different and this is definitely "different".
 
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It's a single nano-sim, no micro-sd slot, permanent battery, and it will be able to be unlocked by at&t, not amazon, but not likely for a few months (through at&t, not sure about third-parties)

P.S. Personally I think the OS is goofy and not very intuitive. It definitely has a few cool visuals, but not in any kind of useful or innovative way. I was expecting a much cooler UI considering it has 6 cameras. It doesn't have a home screen, widgets or any real ways to customize it.
A little off topic but I paid full price for the phone under the assumption "No Contract" means the same as "not locked to at&t.

I was sadly mistaken and AT&T won't help or do anything about it because it's "exclusive to them".
It pisses me off royally I spent $700 for new phone I can't use.

They won't even give a device unlock EVEN if you get a current AT&T customer to register it, and request an unlock. They simply won't do anything and I hope a root comes out soon making them lose millions for this.

That's atrocious - paying, waiting, then being told no.
 
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I just read an article on theverge: "Unlocking phones in the US will soon be legal"
As long as your cell phone is not on contract, you should be able to get the unlock code from at&t after the President signs the bill.
 
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This is just a public service announcement regarding the Amazon Fire Phone's potential hackability based on Amazon's history.

Will it get root?
Most likely. Everything gets root eventually.

Will it get GApps?
Amazon did one hell of a job preventing people from getting GApps on the Kindle Fire HDXs by squeezing down the partition sizes and adding functions in system apps to keep Google apps from functioning properly. So maybe yes, maybe no.

Will it get a bootloader unlock?
Based on Amazon's not so good history of allowing the customization of devices, this may never get a bootloader unlock. They do a pretty good job at locking everything down, I must add.

So, in case you were too lazy to read the above, if you plan on bootloader unlocking this thing and installing the Google Play Store or CyanogenMod fresh out of the box, I would recommend searching elsewhere. The HTC One M8, perhaps, which has slightly better specs anyways.
So basically a lot has changed on the Amazon front since the Original Kindle Fire I have (running CM10). Darn and I was hoping this would be a CM alternative
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