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Upgrade from 4.1.2 to 4.3?

21st May 2014, 07:23 PM   |  #1  
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Hello,

I haven't been here in so long. After reading through the forum I am a little confused.

I am on stock 4.1.2, rooted, and using CW recovery.

I see all the discussion about not updating to 4.3, but I'm not sure if what I have read is up to date or not.

Is there still a problem updating to 4.3? KNOX?

How should I update to 4.3? Do it need to undo root and go back to stock recovery? I'm not sure how to do this. I have used custom ROMS in the past but it's been too long.

Also, it seems that rooting 4.3 is no problem. Is this true?


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rblancrt
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21st May 2014, 10:54 PM   |  #2  
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Originally Posted by rblancrt

Hello,

I haven't been here in so long. After reading through the forum I am a little confused.

I am on stock 4.1.2, rooted, and using CW recovery.

I see all the discussion about not updating to 4.3, but I'm not sure if what I have read is up to date or not.

Is there still a problem updating to 4.3? KNOX?

How should I update to 4.3? Do it need to undo root and go back to stock recovery? I'm not sure how to do this. I have used custom ROMS in the past but it's been too long.

Also, it seems that rooting 4.3 is no problem. Is this true?


Thanks,
rblancrt

Sure, you can upgrade to 4.3 if you want to
the reason why people said not to upgrade to 4.3 is because a lot of people DO NOT READ and come asking for help this or that after they upgrade
and the main reason why people mention not to upgrade is because you can unlock for free as long as you can downgrade your phone to 4.1.1, mainly the bootloader since 4.3 bootloader comes with KNOX
since you're still on 4.1.2, you can downgrade and unlock your phone for free while you still can before upgrading it to 4.3

so this is what you should do, check, if your phone is fully unlocked, if not, unlock it then upgrade

or if you're rich and you don't care, just upgrade and then if you wish to unlock later, pay for unlock code =D

and rooting shouldn't be any problem regardless of which version of android you're on.
to upgrade, you can just download the stock img and flash it through recovery or just use odin flash it
or if you're prefer the old fashion way, the long way in fact, is to unroot, upgrade through system update
Last edited by pcshano; 21st May 2014 at 10:57 PM.
21st May 2014, 11:46 PM   |  #3  
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I would say don't upgrade. The new bootloader has a warranty bit (aka the Knox counter) that, once tripped, can't be reset. Ever. By anyone. The ONLY way I would even consider upgrading is if you need Knox security for work (the majority of us don't). I wouldn't even upgrade if I were selling the device. Let the new owner make that decision for themself. But, I would unlock it. Even if you never need it, it may add a few bucks to the selling price of the phone later on.
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15th August 2014, 03:26 PM   |  #4  
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I would say don't upgrade. The new bootloader has a warranty bit (aka the Knox counter) that, once tripped, can't be reset. Ever. By anyone. The ONLY way I would even consider upgrading is if you need Knox security for work (the majority of us don't). I wouldn't even upgrade if I were selling the device. Let the new owner make that decision for themself. But, I would unlock it. Even if you never need it, it may add a few bucks to the selling price of the phone later on.

But what exactly is the effect of this Knox counter. If it's only that I can't reflash a stock ROM and send it back to Samsung that time has long passed.

I guess I'm getting bored with my phone, had it almost two years, and thought updating to the latest firmware might help.

What are the repercussions of going to 4.3 or higher?

Thanks again for the great info.
15th August 2014, 04:10 PM   |  #5  
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If you are out of warranty, the only drawback, imo, to updating is you cannot downgrade the firmware or modem. You could still flash older roms and kernels, just not the full firmware and not the modem.

Personally, I wouldn't let knox deter me from updating, or recommending it. This is for each person to decide, but I feel the benefits outweigh any drawbacks. knox is easily removed or disabled, and I find the latest builds to be some of the best in terms of performance and battery. (of course there are always some who disagree with that on every update!) of course there are no guarantees, but most seem to be quite happy with both 4.3 and 4.4.2.
As for downgrading.....I have never found a real need for doing so. Some have though, so thats something you need to decide for yourself.

You can try some of the available roms w/o updating the firmware btw. But if you decide you like them, I do suggest going back and fully updating for stability and performance, but thats something for you to decide if you want to go that route.

There will be some who agree and some who do not, so in the end its up to you make an educated decision whether or not you want to.
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