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25th September 2015, 04:01 AM |#3931  
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Flash official CM12, it works fine.

Thanks.
But for me, newer doesn't always equal better

I don't want to run CM12 or M (for now anyway) and I've chosen this phone because of the first half of this thread...

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I would really like opinions from (maybe past) CM11 users here:

running an official C11-M9 (JB-based?) on a LS980 would be much less stable than @jacpotclavin"s last CM11 KK-based (~M12) nightly on a VS980?

I'be just received the Sprint and was expecting a Verizon...

The above dilemma represents 4 months of CM11 commits and from this thread's comments, a much more stable than JB-based...

So hard to quantify "much more stable", but is it really a deal breaker here? i.e: worth the hassle of returning this phone and re-ordering a VS980?

Thanks for any input in advance.
 
 
25th September 2015, 12:54 PM |#3932  
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Originally Posted by [] AL []

Thanks.
But for me, newer doesn't always equal better

I don't want to run CM12 or M (for now anyway) and I've chosen this phone because of the first half of this thread...

edit:

I would really like opinions from (maybe past) CM11 users here:

running an official C11-M9 (JB-based?) on a LS980 would be much less stable than @jacpotclavin"s last CM11 KK-based (~M12) nightly on a VS980?

I'be just received the Sprint and was expecting a Verizon...

The above dilemma represents 4 months of CM11 commits and from this thread's comments, a much more stable than JB-based...

So hard to quantify "much more stable", but is it really a deal breaker here? i.e: worth the hassle of returning this phone and re-ordering a VS980?

Thanks for any input in advance.

Uh, you're asking for a new cm11 build? Why not just get the cm12 build which has all the fixes and more. A lot has changed since this thread started and official cm12 is just as good as JPCs, but it's updated with fixes, so most would argue better. This thread and it's roms are for the Verizon variant, they are separate for a reason from the sprint ones. I would suggest the official cm12 for the ls980, but since you don't care for those, I'd find another rom designed for your phone.
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26th September 2015, 11:51 AM |#3933  
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Thanks.
But for me, newer doesn't always equal better

I don't want to run CM12 or M (for now anyway) and I've chosen this phone because of the first half of this thread...

edit:

I would really like opinions from (maybe past) CM11 users here:

running an official C11-M9 (JB-based?) on a LS980 would be much less stable than @jacpotclavin"s last CM11 KK-based (~M12) nightly on a VS980?

I'be just received the Sprint and was expecting a Verizon...

The above dilemma represents 4 months of CM11 commits and from this thread's comments, a much more stable than JB-based...

So hard to quantify "much more stable", but is it really a deal breaker here? i.e: worth the hassle of returning this phone and re-ordering a VS980?

Thanks for any input in advance.

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Uh, you're asking for a new cm11 build? Why not just get the cm12 build which has all the fixes and more. A lot has changed since this thread started and official cm12 is just as good as JPCs, but it's updated with fixes, so most would argue better. This thread and it's roms are for the Verizon variant, they are separate for a reason from the sprint ones. I would suggest the official cm12 for the ls980, but since you don't care for those, I'd find another rom designed for your phone.

I'm going to +1 @Zimeron here. Official cm12.1 is solid. At first I was hesitant towards making the plunge because JC cm11 was so dependable. I ran that last M build he built for 10 months with no issues what so ever. When I got a replacement device I immediately wanted to just go that route but after reading thru the forums I found out that official cm bad updated their kernel base using the most recent so I figured it would be stable enough for daily driver status and I was correct on my assumption.

No random reboots, no bugs nothing that hinders me from using the device day to day, and I'm on a nightly (there hasn't been an snapshot build for us yet) so you would think there might be a potential issue but none.

I would recommend official cm, its been working great for me. Just be sure to flash Rashed bootstacks those are the recommended ones for these builds if you decide to take a plunge.

Sorry for completely sidetracking this thread any further questions should probably be taken to the Q&A thread of official cm12.1.

Sent from my LG-VS980 using Tapatalk
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27th September 2015, 02:31 PM |#3934  
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When I got a replacement device I immediately wanted to just go that route but after reading thru the forums I found out that official cm bad updated their kernel base using the most recent so I figured it would be stable enough for daily driver status and I was correct on my assumption.

On the other hand, I've been thinking about trying to find a good, stable older ROM. I've used multiple ROMs based on the latest and all constantly lose LTE for me. I can't blame someone for wanting an older one of they hit these issues and the older ROM didn't have them.
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27th September 2015, 04:58 PM |#3935  
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OK, I think that I need to bring up a few points here... Sorry if me asking about CM11 seems to be old and off-topic here, but it's not like my long posts are getting in the way of intense rom development discussion or anything and I'm sure that all all agree that if I go in the general Q&A section and ask about jackpotclavin's CM11, chances are close to nil that someone knowing anything about it would ever show up or reply...

Anyhow, CM12's reliability/stability has never been any of my concerns in regards to prefering CM11 over it. On my current phone, I've had 'tweaked' CM12 builds make by a chinese guy back in December. A couple weks later, our main CM11 maintainers were on it and pulled what was already pretty decently running builds and soon we even had inverted (dark themed) Validus rom available and even more feature complete than CM12. So again, CM12 development status was and definitely is not the issie here.

What you guys forget when you see me as an alien coming here asking for a new CM11 build is that a phone doesn't run on an OS alone. Like most of you Im sure, I have quite a collection of user apps that I've accumulated over the last few years. Many of them that I had to spend a lot of time on I order to find the best available version to fit my needs, avoid problems (wakelocks/incompatibilities or just useless options/functions added in). I also spent quite some time on theming most of them to fit my homemade theme and I've also hacked a few of them (to change things that the CM theme engine cannot cover (like apos layout or stuff defined in smali), to remove excessive/obtrusive advertisement or even remove buttons/option that I found either not needed or simply out of place. One example of this would be the "update all" button in the Playstore: I would NEVER press that and didn't want to even see it on my screen, so I removed it.

Talking of tge PS, maybe 80% of the alps on my phone are not even listed under "My Apps" because I've either modded and re-signed them, got them directly from a developer or never even wanted them to get updated to a newer, bigger and bloated with useless new functionalities (and problems).

CM12 Theming: like many people in the xda threads I follow/participate, I just cannot stand Google's choice of moving to a light themed OS and most importantly, the changes they brought to the way that apps are now themed. In Kk, it is simple: one icon, one png. A few colors and styles clearly defined and easy to change and your good to go. With LP, hello big mess of spaghetti coding, bye-bye colorful icons and buttons and welcome to a world full of monochrome color filters, vector drawned icons and well hidden (and truely unnecessary) smali defined design elements. In simple words: comparatively to CM11, it is a nightmare to theme CM12 and the end results afe arguably uggly and/or extremely time consumming (if similar results is attempted - if even possible....).

And btw, (ok some will argue on its real utility or even its security -I got my reasons for it...,) but how's your Flash support in your CM12's browser? It works OK for me on CM11...
😉

OK I could go on and on here, but I hope you get the point: I've spent a lot of time customizing and choosing every app installed on my phone and I'm not ready to move to a new OS just for the shake of of being "up to date". I don't want to do so and facing a large amount of now incompatible apps and have to start all of the above once again. And in many cases, those apps might have been updated for LP already yes, but so did all the built-up crap in them and bye-bye the possibility of trying original or older versions...

So thanks again for recommending me to move to CM12, but no thanks - not for now at least.

Sorry again for this long post, but I hope that I've brought a different perspective on things here -at least. Android is a world of diversity and freedom of choice; I'd never blame someone for choosing things that I wouldn't use. So please do the same here: my CM11 question of an updated build (with security patches) was not misplaced and perfectly appropriate.

Cheers,
/AL

(I don't feel like proof reading this post, so sorry for the typos)
28th September 2015, 04:00 AM |#3936  
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OK, I think that I need to bring up a few points here... Sorry if me asking about CM11 seems to be old and off-topic here, but it's not like my long posts are getting in the way of intense rom development discussion or anything and I'm sure that all all agree that if I go in the general Q&A section and ask about jackpotclavin's CM11, chances are close to nil that someone knowing anything about it would ever show up or reply...

Anyhow, CM12's reliability/stability has never been any of my concerns in regards to prefering CM11 over it. On my current phone, I've had 'tweaked' CM12 builds make by a chinese guy back in December. A couple weks later, our main CM11 maintainers were on it and pulled what was already pretty decently running builds and soon we even had inverted (dark themed) Validus rom available and even more feature complete than CM12. So again, CM12 development status was and definitely is not the issie here.

What you guys forget when you see me as an alien coming here asking for a new CM11 build is that a phone doesn't run on an OS alone. Like most of you Im sure, I have quite a collection of user apps that I've accumulated over the last few years. Many of them that I had to spend a lot of time on I order to find the best available version to fit my needs, avoid problems (wakelocks/incompatibilities or just useless options/functions added in). I also spent quite some time on theming most of them to fit my homemade theme and I've also hacked a few of them (to change things that the CM theme engine cannot cover (like apos layout or stuff defined in smali), to remove excessive/obtrusive advertisement or even remove buttons/option that I found either not needed or simply out of place. One example of this would be the "update all" button in the Playstore: I would NEVER press that and didn't want to even see it on my screen, so I removed it.

Talking of tge PS, maybe 80% of the alps on my phone are not even listed under "My Apps" because I've either modded and re-signed them, got them directly from a developer or never even wanted them to get updated to a newer, bigger and bloated with useless new functionalities (and problems).

CM12 Theming: like many people in the xda threads I follow/participate, I just cannot stand Google's choice of moving to a light themed OS and most importantly, the changes they brought to the way that apps are now themed. In Kk, it is simple: one icon, one png. A few colors and styles clearly defined and easy to change and your good to go. With LP, hello big mess of spaghetti coding, bye-bye colorful icons and buttons and welcome to a world full of monochrome color filters, vector drawned icons and well hidden (and truely unnecessary) smali defined design elements. In simple words: comparatively to CM11, it is a nightmare to theme CM12 and the end results afe arguably uggly and/or extremely time consumming (if similar results is attempted - if even possible....).

And btw, (ok some will argue on its real utility or even its security -I got my reasons for it...,) but how's your Flash support in your CM12's browser? It works OK for me on CM11...
😉

OK I could go on and on here, but I hope you get the point: I've spent a lot of time customizing and choosing every app installed on my phone and I'm not ready to move to a new OS just for the shake of of being "up to date". I don't want to do so and facing a large amount of now incompatible apps and have to start all of the above once again. And in many cases, those apps might have been updated for LP already yes, but so did all the built-up crap in them and bye-bye the possibility of trying original or older versions...

So thanks again for recommending me to move to CM12, but no thanks - not for now at least.

Sorry again for this long post, but I hope that I've brought a different perspective on things here -at least. Android is a world of diversity and freedom of choice; I'd never blame someone for choosing things that I wouldn't use. So please do the same here: my CM11 question of an updated build (with security patches) was not misplaced and perfectly appropriate.

Cheers,
/AL

(I don't feel like proof reading this post, so sorry for the typos)

If you truly do all that, you have a very unique and odd use case. With that being said, if you're capable of doing all that, then you're capable of building the rom yourself and should get used to doing that, since CM11 is now two versions behind, soon to be three.
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