Just in case you're too scared to do it, I've done it for you.

mikeeey · Apr 18, 2014

On the day of the release, the moment I got home, I got ready for the gym, and did my usual routine. I required more electrolytes than usual, and I knew just the trick...

I don't encourage everyone to try this... Just in case your device for some reason isn't fully sealed like its supposed to be, but when I saw a video online of it underwater for 15 minutes I thought "Hey why not?"

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PuckX · Apr 18, 2014

mikeeey said:
On the day of the release, the moment I got home, I got ready for the gym, and did my usual routine. I required more electrolytes than usual, and I knew just the trick...

I don't encourage everyone to try this... Just in case your device for some reason isn't fully sealed like its supposed to be, but when I saw a video online of it underwater for 15 minutes I thought "Hey why not?"

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Ha! Kudos to you guys who are balsy enough to do this with your new phone. It is good to see that it is living up to the hype, but you will not catch me doing that anytime soon. I used mine in the rain yesterday though without worrying about it, which was nice. Good to know if I pull one of my too drunk to remember my phone is in my pocket jump in a pool/river/lake that my phone has a chance of survival though!

z0mghenry · Apr 18, 2014

I did it this morning. It seems little bit of water got into the speakers so the sounds were kind of gargled? But it cleared itself up within the next 30 min.

cpufrost · Apr 18, 2014

To be honest guys/gals I would not casually dunk the phone.
It's like wrecking your car to test the airbag...

Ok perhaps not as dramatic but the last post with the speaker ingress just brought up an important point. Your phone may appear to be OK but you don't know over a period of time how it may affect its longevity. The water resistance is for those oops moments where you forget and it prevents a costly repair.

IMHO if you want to swim and use the phone regularly around water you're still best using a third party case (lifeproof).

Fluids with high ion content (ex. sea water) are very corrosive and will also leave behind a highly hygroscopic residue. So whenever the device is exposed to high humidity environments, the residue becomes very moist, even dripping wet along with being very conductive. Not something you want in your speakers or lurking on the contacts of the headphone jack, for example! Just a simple wash off in fresh water isn't going to remove these remnants. High grade distilled water with greater than 18 megohms conductance is really the safest thing for a flush but you're still not going to remove every spec of intrusive FOD...

This is why these so called treatments (liquipel) are a false sense of security. The best way to keep your devices in top shape is to prevent liquids from touching them in the first place!

hlb3 · Apr 19, 2014

I have zero plans of dunking my phone, but I'm glad to see that it works as advertised. I've lost 2 phones to accidental water damage over the years, so it is a good piece of mind.

amsguitarist · Apr 20, 2014

cpufrost said:
To be honest guys/gals I would not casually dunk the phone.
It's like wrecking your car to test the airbag...

Ok perhaps not as dramatic but the last post with the speaker ingress just brought up an important point. Your phone may appear to be OK but you don't know over a period of time how it may affect its longevity. The water resistance is for those oops moments where you forget and it prevents a costly repair.

IMHO if you want to swim and use the phone regularly around water you're still best using a third party case (lifeproof).

Fluids with high ion content (ex. sea water) are very corrosive and will also leave behind a highly hygroscopic residue. So whenever the device is exposed to high humidity environments, the residue becomes very moist, even dripping wet along with being very conductive. Not something you want in your speakers or lurking on the contacts of the headphone jack, for example! Just a simple wash off in fresh water isn't going to remove these remnants. High grade distilled water with greater than 18 megohms conductance is really the safest thing for a flush but you're still not going to remove every spec of intrusive FOD...

This is why these so called treatments (liquipel) are a false sense of security. The best way to keep your devices in top shape is to prevent liquids from touching them in the first place!

You don't mean conductance, but rather resistance? Haha, not trying to nitpick but that conflict really stood out to me.

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Fidelio_o · Apr 20, 2014

I check out some porn while in the shower for you guys. You know for testing purposes, and it perform pretty well. No issues. Signal was a little wonky for a few minutes but it's back to normal now. So there's that.

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cpufrost · Apr 20, 2014

amsguitarist said:
You don't mean conductance, but rather resistance? Haha, not trying to nitpick but that conflict really stood out to me.

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The mistake is where I posted MOHM. It should be MMOH.

Conductance is the reciprocal (opposite) of resistance. The unit of measure in resistance is the Ohm and conductance is measured in the Mho. Notice it's Ohm spelled backward? Most meters/standards use Siemens, named after Ernst Werner von Siemens and is expressed as S=Ohm^-1=A/V.

Purest water is an insulator at surprisingly high voltage but its purity doesn't last long with exposure to ambient environments. The Liquipel demos with phones running under water in trays are most certainly done with distilled or deionized water of very high quality. Try doing that with tap water which has a much higher conductance and see what happens. Sea water? Might as well put it out of its misery with a .357. :cowboy:

sk8trix · Apr 20, 2014

Wow not brave enough to dunk it in water but...I used mine too in the rain without worries so I like knowing my phone is safer than my S3 or S4 would have been.

amsguitarist · Apr 20, 2014

cpufrost said:
The mistake is where I posted MOHM. It should be MMOH.

Conductance is the reciprocal (opposite) of resistance. The unit of measure in resistance is the Ohm and conductance is measured in the Mho. Notice it's Ohm spelled backward? Most meters/standards use Siemens, named after Ernst Werner von Siemens and is expressed as S=Ohm^-1=A/V.

Purest water is an insulator at surprisingly high voltage but its purity doesn't last long with exposure to ambient environments. The Liquipel demos with phones running under water in trays are most certainly done with distilled or deionized water of very high quality. Try doing that with tap water which has a much higher conductance and see what happens. Sea water? Might as well put it out of its misery with a .357.

Yeah I understand the properties of DI water. The facility I work at has a high quality deionized water system. No ions = high resistance.

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jonrobertd · Apr 21, 2014

Yeah dunked my first one too, guess what, I'm on my second. ATT warrantied it as the volume up button went wonky, volume going up on it at all times without me pressing the button, then just quit working at all. Phone worked fine for two days, dunked in sink, volume quit. WON'T be dunking this one.

mikeeey · Apr 21, 2014

jonrobertd said:
Yeah dunked my first one too, guess what, I'm on my second. ATT warrantied it as the volume up button went wonky, volume going up on it at all times without me pressing the button, then just quit working at all. Phone worked fine for two days, dunked in sink, volume quit. WON'T be dunking this one.

Wow sorry to hear that happened. Did you see any bubbles come out of the phone at all?

hlb3 said:
I have zero plans of dunking my phone, but I'm glad to see that it works as advertised. I've lost 2 phones to accidental water damage over the years, so it is a good piece of mind.

I actually don't plan to submerge mine anymore, I just wanted to do it at least once, and to get a sense of how waterproof it is in case I ever do have any accidents.

Fidelio_o said:
I check out some porn while in the shower for you guys. You know for testing purposes, and it perform pretty well. No issues. Signal was a little wonky for a few minutes but it's back to normal now. So there's that.

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lol, actually when I brought mine in the shower (though unlike you, not for porn), the water hitting the screen was acting as presses to the screen. Made it very difficult to use the phone.

jonrobertd · Apr 21, 2014

Nope it was in a case too, but I am almost positive water got it. Although I have changed my mind and will be dunking the second one tonight just because my 14 days are not up and I want to know if it is truely waterproof.

davew41 · Apr 21, 2014

Wash mine every day

samsung galaxy s5 water test: http://youtu.be/Z_nFVgeJU8U

bailey37821 · Apr 21, 2014

cpufrost said:
The mistake is where I posted MOHM. It should be MMOH.

Conductance is the reciprocal (opposite) of resistance. The unit of measure in resistance is the Ohm and conductance is measured in the Mho. Notice it's Ohm spelled backward? Most meters/standards use Siemens, named after Ernst Werner von Siemens and is expressed as S=Ohm^-1=A/V.

Purest water is an insulator at surprisingly high voltage but its purity doesn't last long with exposure to ambient environments. The Liquipel demos with phones running under water in trays are most certainly done with distilled or deionized water of very high quality. Try doing that with tap water which has a much higher conductance and see what happens. Sea water? Might as well put it out of its misery with a .357.

LOL, agreed. I'm not certain how that conflict stood out to him. It is indeed increased conductivity in your original statement context.

amsguitarist · Apr 22, 2014

bailey37821 said:
LOL, agreed. I'm not certain how that conflict stood out to him. It is indeed increased conductivity in your original statement context.

DI Water has DECREASED conductivity. It has no electrolytes to conduct charge. It has HIGH resistance. Please refer back to your introductory chemistry class.

I don't think you understand what he was trying to explain. His original post said that high grade DI or distilled water has greater than 18 megohm conductance.

OHM is a unit of resistivity. So a greater amount of resistivity of water is desirable because that means there is an absence of electrolytes. If he meant conductance, it should have actually been a very low number, where less is more desireable. So what he said is in itself a completely conflicting statement unless you replace conductance with resistance in his statement.

Even with his correction of claiming to use the wrong units, DI water conductance would be in Micro Siemens which is much much much less than a mega Siemen. I assume it was a recall mistake and then a mis-correction of the original statement after he looked it up on Wikipedia.

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cpufrost · Apr 22, 2014

amsguitarist said:
DI Water has DECREASED conductivity. It has no electrolytes to conduct charge. It has HIGH resistance. Please refer back to your introductory chemistry class.

I don't think you understand what he was trying to explain. His original post said that high grade DI or distilled water has greater than 18 megohm conductance.

OHM is a unit of resistivity. So a greater amount of resistivity of water is desirable because that means there is an absence of electrolytes. If he meant conductance, it should have actually been a very low number, where less is more desireable. So what he said is in itself a completely conflicting statement unless you replace conductance with resistance in his statement.

Even with his correction of claiming to use the wrong units, DI water conductance would be in Micro Siemens which is much much much less than a mega Siemen. I assume it was a recall mistake and then a mis-correction of the original statement after he looked it up on Wikipedia.

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ROFL.

Assume is right.
Of course it's been some 30 years since I've worked in the biz as an engineer.

In any case, at the trade shows ask them what kind of water they have the phone in. Bring a pocket conductance meter with you.

Guess what, they won't cooperate. I recall back in the 90s attending CLEO they did not appreciate nor cooperate with me and my tools. Just as a magician doesn't want someone showing the tricks...

bailey37821 · Apr 22, 2014

amsguitarist said:
DI Water has DECREASED conductivity. It has no electrolytes to conduct charge. It has HIGH resistance. Please refer back to your introductory chemistry class.

I don't think you understand what he was trying to explain. His original post said that high grade DI or distilled water has greater than 18 megohm conductance.

OHM is a unit of resistivity. So a greater amount of resistivity of water is desirable because that means there is an absence of electrolytes. If he meant conductance, it should have actually been a very low number, where less is more desireable. So what he said is in itself a completely conflicting statement unless you replace conductance with resistance in his statement.

Even with his correction of claiming to use the wrong units, DI water conductance would be in Micro Siemens which is much much much less than a mega Siemen. I assume it was a recall mistake and then a mis-correction of the original statement after he looked it up on Wikipedia.

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Was commenting on conductivity as related to the statement on salt water. So evidently I did read the original statement wrong. I assumed he was pointing out the fact that salt water or other impurities in tap water would be conductive. I'll go back and read it again.

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bailey37821 said:
Was commenting on conductivity as related to the statement on salt water. So evidently I did read the original statement wrong. I assumed he was pointing out the fact that salt water or other impurities in tap water would be conductive. I'll go back and read it again.

Yep. I see it now. Just a misunderstanding. I was agreeing with the 1st part of the statement and misread the argument to the DI water part of it. I still agree with the statements idea as a whole.

amsguitarist · Apr 22, 2014

bailey37821 said:
Was commenting on conductivity as related to the statement on salt water. So evidently I did read the original statement wrong. I assumed he was pointing out the fact that salt water or other impurities in tap water would be conductive. I'll go back and read it again.

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Yep. I see it now. Just a misunderstanding. I was agreeing with the 1st part of the statement and misread the argument to the DI water part of it. I still agree with the statements idea as a whole.

Yes. The overall statements are correct. Sorry. Didn't mean to be too condescending but I work with chemicals everyday and it's extremely irritating to see misinformation.

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bailey37821 · Apr 22, 2014

amsguitarist said:
Yes. The overall statements are correct. Sorry. Didn't mean to be too condescending but I work with chemicals everyday and it's extremely irritating to see misinformation.

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No prob for me. I guess I read it quick and just took in the overall "flavor" of the statement. I did not catch your argument as being specifically for DI water. I do a lot of work with pulling Hydrogen by electrolysis out of water and so knew exactly what he was getting at. I skip over the verbage a lot...like talking about drawing a line in the sand and saying this side is conductive and the other is resistive. Its really all just a measure of conductivity.
Hot and cold; Is it cold or do we actually measure the lack of heat? LOL

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