[HOW-TO] Preparing to flash an ND8 (kitkat) rom

roirraW "edor" ehT · Oct 7, 2014

lorrdvader said:
Hi, sorry for this lame question and it's quite clear from your statement above the answer to what I'm about to ask, but just to be REALLY clear, updating the bootloader to ND8/NDC does NOT preclude a user from flashing an older android version as long as the bootloader is not downgraded, correct? For instance, maybe I'm missing something but I find Kitkat going more or less the iOS direction, and would love to just stay on/go back to 4.3.

In short, can I install a 4.3 ROM with an ND8/NDC bootloader?

Thanks in advance

Yes. Just to be clear, Android / KitKat has nothing to do with Knox. That's a Samsung thing.

Android L is supposed to contain certain elements of Knox, but from what I read it has to do with aspects that wouldn't necessarily concern those that Knox on Samsung are concerned about.

Recovery FLASHABLE version now posted near the bottom of the first post of the 3Minit Battery Mod for Conquest-Singularity and both Stock ND8 and NDC with 1000+ animated battery icons..

[BATTERY] Plasma Battery! ??? & wickeddecimalbarwide_colors

Charging still shot

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII on TouchWiz 4.4.2 with Conquest: Singularity v7.0, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

lorrdvader · Oct 8, 2014

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Yes. Just to be clear, Android / KitKat has nothing to do with Knox. That's a Samsung thing.

Android L is supposed to contain certain elements of Knox, but from what I read it has to do with aspects that wouldn't necessarily concern those that Knox on Samsung are concerned about.

Thanks for that. Not sure why we're talking about Knox or more specifically being assumed I was confused between Knox and Android, although I do understand the fact that Knox is built into the bootloader of the stock KitKat for the SIII, is related to bootloader compatibility of previous Android versions and people have been bricking devices by ODIN'ing full <4.4 tar's on top of the ND8/NDC bootloaders.

Now, one last question about this topic...how do I tell if the 4.3 Zip I'm about to flash in recovery on my ND8 bootloader does NOT contain an older bootloader which will brick my phone? Is it more or less a rule that recovery flashable zip will NEVER contain a bootloader? What's the name of the bootloader binary to look for to be absolutely certain unless of course as mentioned above, NO flashable zip will contain a bootloader, and I can't flash away zips in recovery?

Again thanks for the patience & sorry for stupid questions

roirraW "edor" ehT · Oct 9, 2014

lorrdvader said:
Thanks for that. Not sure why we're talking about Knox or more specifically being assumed I was confused between Knox and Android, although I do understand the fact that Knox is built into the bootloader of the stock KitKat for the SIII, is related to bootloader compatibility of previous Android versions and people have been bricking devices by ODIN'ing full <4.4 tar's on top of the ND8/NDC bootloaders.

Now, one last question about this topic...how do I tell if the 4.3 Zip I'm about to flash in recovery on my ND8 bootloader does NOT contain an older bootloader which will brick my phone? Is it more or less a rule that recovery flashable zip will NEVER contain a bootloader? What's the name of the bootloader binary to look for to be absolutely certain unless of course as mentioned above, NO flashable zip will contain a bootloader, and I can't flash away zips in recovery?

Again thanks for the patience & sorry for stupid questions

Custom ROMs don't contain bootloaders. You're welcome!

Recovery FLASHABLE version now posted near the bottom of the first post of the 3Minit Battery Mod for Conquest-Singularity and both Stock ND8 and NDC with 1000+ animated battery icons..

[BATTERY] Plasma Battery! ??? & wickeddecimalbarwide_colors

Charging still shot

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy SIII on TouchWiz 4.4.2 with Conquest: Singularity v7.0, Ktoonsez' latest kernel and the latest Philz Touch Recovery.

bilgerryan · Oct 9, 2014

lorrdvader said:
Thanks for that. Not sure why we're talking about Knox or more specifically being assumed I was confused between Knox and Android, although I do understand the fact that Knox is built into the bootloader of the stock KitKat for the SIII, is related to bootloader compatibility of previous Android versions and people have been bricking devices by ODIN'ing full <4.4 tar's on top of the ND8/NDC bootloaders.

Now, one last question about this topic...how do I tell if the 4.3 Zip I'm about to flash in recovery on my ND8 bootloader does NOT contain an older bootloader which will brick my phone? Is it more or less a rule that recovery flashable zip will NEVER contain a bootloader? What's the name of the bootloader binary to look for to be absolutely certain unless of course as mentioned above, NO flashable zip will contain a bootloader, and I can't flash away zips in recovery?

Again thanks for the patience & sorry for stupid questions

Unless it says specifically that it is a bootloader (haven't heard of anything but Odin running them but anything is possible with some of the geniuses on here), it's safe to assume that it doesn't contain one.

My ROM: WICKED X

kalala · Oct 14, 2014

Is there a reason that some apps, like Hangouts, seem to have their own maximum clock speed other than one I have set universally using SetCPU?

When I run most other apps, or even just at the home screen, I have the CPU set to 1.2 Ghz with the "screen on." For some reason, Hangouts seems to take that maximum clock speed and cap it at 1.02 Ghz when I am in the Hangouts app and typing a message. I feel it even causes my keyboard to lag and misspell things horrifically.

Am I crazy? I know the clock speed goes down because I have an Xposed Module to display CPU speed on the notification bar and I never see it above 1026 or whatever it is. Soon as I quit the app, it shoots back up to 1.2 or so and other apps can hit that mark. Not Hangouts.

bilgerryan · Oct 14, 2014

kalala said:
Is there a reason that some apps, like Hangouts, seem to have their own maximum clock speed other than one I have set universally using SetCPU?

When I run most other apps, or even just at the home screen, I have the CPU set to 1.2 Ghz with the "screen on." For some reason, Hangouts seems to take that maximum clock speed and cap it at 1.02 Ghz when I am in the Hangouts app and typing a message. I feel it even causes my keyboard to lag and misspell things horrifically.

Am I crazy? I know the clock speed goes down because I have an Xposed Module to display CPU speed on the notification bar and I never see it above 1026 or whatever it is. Soon as I quit the app, it shoots back up to 1.2 or so and other apps can hit that mark. Not Hangouts.

Yes, some apps have their own clock speed they set it to.. There's an option in Wanam Xposed to disable that.

My ROM: WICKED X

kalala · Oct 14, 2014

bilgerryan said:
Yes, some apps have their own clock speed they set it to.. There's an option in Wanam Xposed to disable that.

My ROM: WICKED X

Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I didn't know there was such a thing that varied by app.

Is this a Stock ROM thing, or does this happen in CM and other ROMs too?

bilgerryan · Oct 14, 2014

kalala said:
Thanks, I'll give it a shot. I didn't know there was such a thing that varied by app.

Is this a Stock ROM thing, or does this happen in CM and other ROMs too?

It's mostly benchmark apps like Quadrant that I've heard doing it. I've never heard of Hangouts being a culprit, but I know it is possible for apps to do so... As I said this is on the app level, the ROM you're using won't matter. Maybe try overclocking one step and see if it still brings the clock speed down.

My ROM: WICKED X

bigfoot.kom · Nov 11, 2014

Hello. I have an att i747. Is this rom compatible? Thank you. It looks great! Would like to use it.

bilgerryan · Nov 11, 2014

bigfoot.kom said:
Hello. I have an att i747. Is this rom compatible? Thank you. It looks great! Would like to use it.

This isn't a ROM, and no ND8 is not compatible.

My ROM: WICKED X

bigfoot.kom · Nov 11, 2014

bilgerryan said:
This isn't a ROM, and no ND8 is not compatible.

My ROM: WICKED X

My apologies. I misunderstood the link for questions on the wicked x thread. Also thank you for your reply.

bilgerryan · Nov 11, 2014

bigfoot.kom said:
My apologies. I misunderstood the link for questions on the wicked x thread. Also thank you for your reply.

I believe Wicked X is being ported to ATT and TMo by talkingmonkeys, he has just been really busy.

My ROM: WICKED X

ricosf415 · Dec 22, 2014

does anyone know why after i flashed wicked v8.0 all of a sudden no musmusic or sound and even my video player will not work.speakers no sound and also jead phone dont work is there any fix for this

Spidakid · Jan 8, 2015

these are the instructions.. they're pretty simple but at #4 that file doesnt show up when I click PDA,,,, its dowloaded.

1. Extract Download file
2. Put phone into download mode (power off, then power button + Volume Down, then volume up when prompted)
3. Open Odin (right click > open as administrator)
4. Load File L710VPUCND8_L710SPRCND8_L710VPUCND8_HOME.tar.md5 into the PDA slot
5. Start flashing
6. Grab some popcorn because it will take a while

Ainz_Ooal_Gown · Jan 9, 2015

Spidakid said:
these are the instructions.. they're pretty simple but at #4 that file doesnt show up when I click PDA,,,, its dowloaded.

1. Extract Download file
2. Put phone into download mode (power off, then power button + Volume Down, then volume up when prompted)
3. Open Odin (right click > open as administrator)
4. Load File L710VPUCND8_L710SPRCND8_L710VPUCND8_HOME.tar.md5 into the PDA slot
5. Start flashing
6. Grab some popcorn because it will take a while

did you download it?

bilgerryan · Jan 9, 2015

You have to select the file... if it's not showing up change the filters to ".md5"

My ROMs: Wicked X & Wicked S5 Xperience

Spidakid · Jan 9, 2015

Yeah its downloaded.
See its downloaded to the left<<<<<<<
But it doesnt show up to the right>>>>>>

Got it to select the file... and now I get a fail, when i try to flash.

bilgerryan · Jan 9, 2015

Spidakid said:
Yeah its downloaded.
See its downloaded to the left

You have the L710T Model? DON'T ODIN ND8! IT'S NOT FOR YOUR PHONE! This is why posting the same thing in multiple threads is bad, stick to one thread for your problems. Your phone came with the Kit Kat Bootloader so there is no reason to ODIN anything. Go to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57771083
. Follow the instructions there and you will have Wicked X up and running.

My ROMs: Wicked X & Wicked S5 Xperience

Spidakid · Jan 9, 2015

bilgerryan said:
You have the L710T Model? DON'T ODIN ND8! IT'S NOT FOR YOUR PHONE! This is why posting the same thing in multiple threads is bad, stick to one thread for your problems. Your phone came with the Kit Kat Bootloader so there is no reason to ODIN anything. Go to http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57771083
. Follow the instructions there and you will have Wicked X up and running.

My ROMs: Wicked X & Wicked S5 Xperience

aww dude i told you I had a L710t and you told me to follow the link on #4 and it lead me here. Thanks for the help man! This was all made difficult because chrome wont open most of the links... and I had to move files from my phone which made them invalid. i dont expect anymore problems that i wont be able to handle thanks again.

bilgerryan · Jan 9, 2015

Spidakid said:
aww dude i told you I had a L710t and you told me to follow the link on #4 and it lead me here. But nonetheless now the only problem is when ever i try to select phillz recovery it says md5 error! binary is invalid.

Yeah I was thinking of the wrong thread, sorry I have two ROMs (I fixed it in the instructions in the OP now)... that means you got a bad download of the ROM or a really old version of Philz. If there is an option of "Don't use old binary" or something along those lines, uncheck it and then flash. If you do have that option, you have an old version of Philz.

My ROMs: Wicked X & Wicked S5 Xperience

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