[SMS INCREASE] REMOVE the 160+ SMS Limit on WP7 for HTC Arrive GOLD_C

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THIS METHOD IS DEPENDANT OF THE TOWERS NEAR YOU. PLEASE READ THE END OF THIS POST TO SEE A QUOTE FROM LEADPOIZON ABOUT THIS.​

Alright, after searching time and time again. Trying time and time again... And Failing time and time again... :eek: (jejeje) I was finally successful at sending multiple messages through the HTC Arrive... ;) I feel so stupid for not trying this as one of the first things but hey... You gotta deal with your own stupidity at times :p ... jejeje.
Anyway, what you guys have been waiting for...​

HOW TO REMOVE THE 160 CHARACTER SMS LIMIT ON WP7
(I can only try this on the HTC Arrive as I do NOT have any other WP7 device)​

I HAVE TESTED THIS ON ANSAR's CUSTOM ROM'S (16.04 TANGO V1 8773) DFT's CUSTOM ROM (Freedom V1) LEADPOIZONS ROMS (ALREADY INCLUDED IN SETTINGS ON BOTH 7.5 AND 7.8 ROMS) SIANTOS ROM (WP7.8 ALL)
BUT AS OF NOW, ITS DEPENDANT ON THE COMMUNICATION TOWERS NEAR YOU​

Use the included REGISTRY EDITOR on EITHER ROM's to edit entree:​

1.) Go to HKLM\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Router\CDMA and change the Contantenation entry from a 0 to a 1​

2.)Select the EXIT from the Registry Editor
3.) Go to your text messages and try to send a 161+ character text message to YOURSELF

DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION, YOU MAY RECEIVE THE MULTIPLE MESSAGE... IF YOU DONT, CONTINUE TO HOPEFULLY TROUBLESHOOT​

4.) REBOOT YOUR PHONE!!!
5.) Once your phone is back up, go back to the text hub and click on RETRY SEND to send the text message.​
(This message will leave this time with no response from the Messaging App.)
***WAIT A MINUTE OR TWO TO RECEIVE THE MESSAGE, IF YOU DONT RECEIVE THEN FOLLOW THE NEXT STEP***​

6.) Go back to your text hub and TYPE A NEW 161+ character message and try to send yourself again. This time you should receive 2+ messages after going through the network.​

You can combine this tweak with my unlimited MMS size :eek: tweak and you are good to go!!! You can now have unlimited SMS characters and MMS size... jejeje :D
(For the MMS post, go here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1606865 )​

THERE YOU GO... 160+SMS MESSAGE IS POSSIBLE THROUGH WP7... HTC ARRIVE... THANKS GO OUT TO ANSAR AND DFT FOR THE ROMS AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO LEADPOIZON FOR ALL THE HELP.



`-`-`-`-`-`UPDATE REGARDING THE COMM TOWERS, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, PLEASE READ`-`-`-`-`-`​

SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT SUCCESS STORIES/FAILURES WITH THIS TWEAK WE HAVE BEEN PURSUING A "GLOBAL" FIX... JEJEJE. AFTER MUCH TESTING, LEADPOIZON CAME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK MAY BE FINAL RESULTS... ​

leadpoizon said:
MY FINAL RESULTS:

This method is dependent on the towers near you, because of the following*:

Some Mobile Phone Operating Systems are designed to split up texts whens they are sent over the 160 character limit before they are sent to the network (even dumb phones can do this). Windows Phone does not seem to have this capability, it sends your message in its' entirety to the network and hopes that the network can sort it out into split texts. The problem is, not all Sprint towers seem to support this. For that reason, Sprint completely disabled the option to send a text over 160 characters.

When you know this method will work**:

1. Make the registry Edit (Reboots is not really needed, WP dynamically monitors the registry, it seems.)
2. Send yourself a text over the 160 characters. (It should allow you to after the registry edit.)
3. The text will give you an error either instantly or in a few minutes.
4. Reboot, if you want (just to be sure.). Then, resend the same text.
5. It will send without errors and you should receive the content back in more than one text. Done.

When you know this method will NOT work**:

1. Make the registry Edit (Reboots is not really needed, WP dynamically monitors the registry, it seems.)
2. Send yourself a text over the 160 characters. (It should allow you to after the registry edit.)
3. The text will not give you an error. After a LONG time (an hour or so, you will get the error.)
4. During the time between you sending the text and receiving the error, your MMS and SMS will be broken and you most likely will not receive or be able to send texts.
5. Reboot your phone and things should be back to normal. Change the registry back to default value to avoid making an accidental text over 160 characters. Go yell at MS and Sprint.

* Only speculation after my trials
** YMMV
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I've tried this registry key before without success, but I tried your directions anyway. I'm running the DFT Freedom ROM, but I never get the first "can't send" message. After rebooting, I can send texts like normal until I try to send one that is 161+ characters long. Then all messages fail to send, regardless of length until I reboot again. There has to be some other setting or registry key change that you have which, in combination with he CDMAConcatenation entry, allows it to work on your handset. I believe you did it, we just need to figure out what the magic combination is! :)
 
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dandrayan said:
I've tried this registry key before without success, but I tried your directions anyway. I'm running the DFT Freedom ROM, but I never get the first "can't send" message. After rebooting, I can send texts like normal until I try to send one that is 161+ characters long. Then all messages fail to send, regardless of length until I reboot again. There has to be some other setting or registry key change that you have which, in combination with he CDMAConcatenation entry, allows it to work on your handset. I believe you did it, we just need to figure out what the magic combination is! :)
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I would agree with you except that I have reset the phone (Even FULL FACTORY RESET WITH ANSAR's)... Flashed to DFT and tried it, then flashed back into ANSAR's rom and tried it again... It worked when I did exactly the top... For some reason... I litteraly made this the ONLY edit on those ROM's to ensure it worked... and it did...


EDIT 1: And you did follow to the letter correct? No other texts until the process was done? I am currently downloading a STOCK ROM... I will flash to it and try, then I will flash back and report my findings... Again, as of now, I have been able to follow the directions I have posted and been successful 100% of the times...
 
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I can't follow to the letter because I never get the "can't send" message. Otherwise, yes, I've followed the instructions exactly. No other texts incoming or outgoing besides the ones in your instructions.

I wonder if it's dependent on a setting at the tower or on the account within Sprint's systems that allows this?
 
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dandrayan said:
I can't follow to the letter because I never get the "can't send" message. Otherwise, yes, I've followed the instructions exactly. No other texts incoming or outgoing besides the ones in your instructions.

I wonder if it's dependent on a setting at the tower or on the account within Sprint's systems that allows this?
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I was thinking thesame thing... to an extent... You know how Microsoft was resetting devices as they were being unlocked? That is, once you synched with their server, your unlock would be gone...

When I first tried this it did not work... I gave up that day and came back to it yesterday... I have to say that the tweak was in my system for at least 24hrs... maybe there is something that has now bypassed this on MY particular account? I dont know...

Also: I just flashed a stock (Well not unlocked/tweaked/or anything) ROM and did a full factory reset, then I updated my PROFILE and PRL just to make sure that no settings were left on the phone from the previous flash. I then proceeded to flash the DFT ROM and all I had to do was the registry edit, when I went to the messaging... I sent the 161+ sms...

I dont know... Id have to say something flicked the switch... on one side or the other... Would you mind checking tomorrow throughout the day :confused: to see if this may be the issue...

If this is the issue, it makes sense why nobody had found it yet, they did the edit and did not let it get "registered" in their phone??? jejeje... Too many questions... jejeje
 
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Thanks Man. It worked for me without rebooting on dft. I made the change, and tried to send a 161 test to myself. It sent fine with no error and I received both texts within a minute. Thanks!
 
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I'm using the Ansar v1 rom and this reg edit doesn't work for me. Does it depend on area? I'm in the north jersey. When I try to send a message to myself longer than 160+ characters, I either get no reply whatsoever or I get the following error "can't send message Try again".

Any suggestions? I tried rebooting.. updating prl.. updating network profile.. doesn't work for me.
 
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spydc said:
I'm using the Ansar v1 rom and this reg edit doesn't work for me. Does it depend on area? I'm in the north jersey. When I try to send a message to myself longer than 160+ characters, I either get no reply whatsoever or I get the following error "can't send message Try again".

Any suggestions? I tried rebooting.. updating prl.. updating network profile.. doesn't work for me.
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when u get this msg...
1.) REBOOT the phone.
2.) Go back to sms and click retry... it should go but no response for a while...
3.) type new 161+ sms and send to yourself again.

Let me know.

EDIT: And I know you probably have tried this but just give it a shot again... Also, go back to the registry and re-edit the string, save again and click MENU then EXIT to leave the application. REBOOT and try to re-send
 
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mapaz04 said:
when u get this msg...
1.) REBOOT the phone.
2.) Go back to sms and click retry... it should go but no response for a while...
3.) type new 161+ sms and send to yourself again.

Let me know.

EDIT: And I know you probably have tried this but just give it a shot again... Also, go back to the registry and re-edit the string, save again and click MENU then EXIT to leave the application. REBOOT and try to re-send
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I was able to reproduce this only once and with a few tries and only when texting myself. Do you have this working completely after this edit and are able to send others texts?
 
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Been texting like crazy man...

leadpoizon said:
I was able to reproduce this only once and with a few tries and only when texting myself. Do you have this working completely after this edit and are able to send others texts?
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Yep, ive been texting more now that the limit is gone... I dont have to worry about my limit being reached... So ive been sending multiple part messages to everyone... jejeje

Anyway, to be safe and to hold some proof (not that I need it... jejeje) here is a picture of my HTC Arrive (left) and my wife's Evo 3D (right). I sent a 3 part message and she received every one of the pieces... I made sure my phone had nothing on it (yes, reset it AGAIN... jejeje) as you can still see the RED accent color... jejeje...
 

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mapaz04 said:
Yep, ive been texting more now that the limit is gone... I dont have to worry about my limit being reached... So ive been sending multiple part messages to everyone... jejeje

Anyway, to be safe and to hold some proof (not that I need it... jejeje) here is a picture of my HTC Arrive (left) and my wife's Evo 3D (right). I sent a 3 part message and she received every one of the pieces... I made sure my phone had nothing on it (yes, reset it AGAIN... jejeje) as you can still see the RED accent color... jejeje...
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Cool, thanks. There must be some reason why I can't get it to work.
Time to find out why... Did you have to do that procedure after you reset the device to factory settings, or did you just do the registry change and that was it?
 
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leadpoizon said:
Cool, thanks. There must be some reason why I can't get it to work.
Time to find out why... Did you have to do that procedure after you reset the device to factory settings, or did you just do the registry change and that was it?
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Just went to the REGISTRY and changed it... That was it. Didnt have to do the procedure after the first couple of times that I tried it... I do have to say that whe I try it I do it with a CLEAN INSTALL... I dont know if that is the difference in my success since I flash the ROM squeaky clean and do the edit from the beginning (since I have been testing didnt want something else to mess with this...)

Dont know what is the issue... Some people have reported to be working fine, others are having issues... hmmm... dunno what to say at this time...
 
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mapaz04 said:
Just went to the REGISTRY and changed it... That was it. Didnt have to do the procedure after the first couple of times that I tried it... I do have to say that whe I try it I do it with a CLEAN INSTALL... I dont know if that is the difference in my success since I flash the ROM squeaky clean and do the edit from the beginning (since I have been testing didnt want something else to mess with this...)

Dont know what is the issue... Some people have reported to be working fine, others are having issues... hmmm... dunno what to say at this time...
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I wonder if this has to do with what plan people have... Like, I don't pay the $10 data charge. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
 
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leadpoizon said:
I wonder if this has to do with what plan people have... Like, I don't pay the $10 data charge. I wonder if that has anything to do with it.
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Now, I did have issues at the beginning while trying to make this work... However, once it worked, it seems that it has not stopped working...

And I DO pay the $10 for data so... that MAY be something to look into... :eek:
 
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    mapaz04
    mapaz04
    THIS METHOD IS DEPENDANT OF THE TOWERS NEAR YOU. PLEASE READ THE END OF THIS POST TO SEE A QUOTE FROM LEADPOIZON ABOUT THIS.​

    Alright, after searching time and time again. Trying time and time again... And Failing time and time again... :eek: (jejeje) I was finally successful at sending multiple messages through the HTC Arrive... ;) I feel so stupid for not trying this as one of the first things but hey... You gotta deal with your own stupidity at times :p ... jejeje.
    Anyway, what you guys have been waiting for...​

    HOW TO REMOVE THE 160 CHARACTER SMS LIMIT ON WP7
    (I can only try this on the HTC Arrive as I do NOT have any other WP7 device)​

    I HAVE TESTED THIS ON ANSAR's CUSTOM ROM'S (16.04 TANGO V1 8773) DFT's CUSTOM ROM (Freedom V1) LEADPOIZONS ROMS (ALREADY INCLUDED IN SETTINGS ON BOTH 7.5 AND 7.8 ROMS) SIANTOS ROM (WP7.8 ALL)
    BUT AS OF NOW, ITS DEPENDANT ON THE COMMUNICATION TOWERS NEAR YOU​

    Use the included REGISTRY EDITOR on EITHER ROM's to edit entree:​

    1.) Go to HKLM\Comm\Cellular\SMS\Router\CDMA and change the Contantenation entry from a 0 to a 1​

    2.)Select the EXIT from the Registry Editor
    3.) Go to your text messages and try to send a 161+ character text message to YOURSELF

    DEPENDING ON YOUR LOCATION, YOU MAY RECEIVE THE MULTIPLE MESSAGE... IF YOU DONT, CONTINUE TO HOPEFULLY TROUBLESHOOT​

    4.) REBOOT YOUR PHONE!!!
    5.) Once your phone is back up, go back to the text hub and click on RETRY SEND to send the text message.​
    (This message will leave this time with no response from the Messaging App.)
    ***WAIT A MINUTE OR TWO TO RECEIVE THE MESSAGE, IF YOU DONT RECEIVE THEN FOLLOW THE NEXT STEP***​

    6.) Go back to your text hub and TYPE A NEW 161+ character message and try to send yourself again. This time you should receive 2+ messages after going through the network.​

    You can combine this tweak with my unlimited MMS size :eek: tweak and you are good to go!!! You can now have unlimited SMS characters and MMS size... jejeje :D
    (For the MMS post, go here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1606865 )​

    THERE YOU GO... 160+SMS MESSAGE IS POSSIBLE THROUGH WP7... HTC ARRIVE... THANKS GO OUT TO ANSAR AND DFT FOR THE ROMS AND A SPECIAL THANKS TO LEADPOIZON FOR ALL THE HELP.



    `-`-`-`-`-`UPDATE REGARDING THE COMM TOWERS, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, PLEASE READ`-`-`-`-`-`​

    SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT SUCCESS STORIES/FAILURES WITH THIS TWEAK WE HAVE BEEN PURSUING A "GLOBAL" FIX... JEJEJE. AFTER MUCH TESTING, LEADPOIZON CAME UP WITH WHAT WE THINK MAY BE FINAL RESULTS... ​

    leadpoizon said:
    MY FINAL RESULTS:

    This method is dependent on the towers near you, because of the following*:

    Some Mobile Phone Operating Systems are designed to split up texts whens they are sent over the 160 character limit before they are sent to the network (even dumb phones can do this). Windows Phone does not seem to have this capability, it sends your message in its' entirety to the network and hopes that the network can sort it out into split texts. The problem is, not all Sprint towers seem to support this. For that reason, Sprint completely disabled the option to send a text over 160 characters.

    When you know this method will work**:

    1. Make the registry Edit (Reboots is not really needed, WP dynamically monitors the registry, it seems.)
    2. Send yourself a text over the 160 characters. (It should allow you to after the registry edit.)
    3. The text will give you an error either instantly or in a few minutes.
    4. Reboot, if you want (just to be sure.). Then, resend the same text.
    5. It will send without errors and you should receive the content back in more than one text. Done.

    When you know this method will NOT work**:

    1. Make the registry Edit (Reboots is not really needed, WP dynamically monitors the registry, it seems.)
    2. Send yourself a text over the 160 characters. (It should allow you to after the registry edit.)
    3. The text will not give you an error. After a LONG time (an hour or so, you will get the error.)
    4. During the time between you sending the text and receiving the error, your MMS and SMS will be broken and you most likely will not receive or be able to send texts.
    5. Reboot your phone and things should be back to normal. Change the registry back to default value to avoid making an accidental text over 160 characters. Go yell at MS and Sprint.

    * Only speculation after my trials
    ** YMMV
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    leadpoizon
    MY FINAL RESULTS:

    This method is dependent on the towers near you, because of the following*:

    Some Mobile Phone Operating Systems are designed to split up texts whens they are sent over the 160 character limit before they are sent to the network (even dumb phones can do this). Windows Phone does not seem to have this capability, it sends your message in its' entirety to the network and hopes that the network can sort it out into split texts. The problem is, not all Sprint towers seem to support this. For that reason, Sprint completely disabled the option to send a text over 160 characters.

    When you know this method will work**:

    1. Make the registry Edit (Reboots is not really needed, WP dynamically monitors the registry, it seems.)
    2. Send yourself a text over the 160 characters. (It should allow you to after the registry edit.)
    3. The text will give you an error either instantly or in a few minutes.
    4. Reboot, if you want (just to be sure.). Then, resend the same text.
    5. It will send without errors and you should receive the content back in more than one text. Done.

    When you know this method will NOT work**:

    1. Make the registry Edit (Reboots is not really needed, WP dynamically monitors the registry, it seems.)
    2. Send yourself a text over the 160 characters. (It should allow you to after the registry edit.)
    3. The text will not give you an error. After a LONG time (an hour or so, you will get the error.)
    4. During the time between you sending the text and receiving the error, your MMS and SMS will be broken and you most likely will not receive or be able to send texts.
    5. Reboot your phone and things should be back to normal. Change the registry back to default value to avoid making an accidental text over 160 characters. Go yell at MS and Sprint.

    * Only speculation after my trials
    ** YMMV
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    leadpoizon
    Awesome work! Now to release a ROM. :D
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    mapaz04
    mapaz04
    Have you tried...

    turdsamich said:
    ok I have a bit of a problem I tried this on my DFT Gold C arrive and it didnt work. When I change the registry value and try to send the message it appears to go through but I never get a text back and I never get an error message and restarting otherwise just breaks text messsaging (and email too appaently).

    Texting over 160 characters isnt at all essential to me but it would be nice to have, maybe ill give this another try after some more feedback.
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    Have you tried just leaving the tweak on? Earlier I had a thought that possibly... POSSIBLY... there is a network setting that gets updated over time, so keep the edit turned on for at least a day or so and see if anything changes... Sorry I cant be of much help... I was able to do it with the steps I posted... But as you can attest, results may vary... jejeje
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    turdsamich said:
    maybe Ill try leaving the tweak on overnight, I guess if by the time I wake up I dont either get an error message or my actual message sent back to my phone I will know that it isnt working.

    Is that a logical way of thinking about it?

    Id leave it for longer but Id rather not be stuck a full day (or longer) without texting (especially considering it seems to have broken email on my phone as well)
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    If you leave it enabled, it still kills your sms and e-mail? I thought it was only when you turned it back off... Sorry man, I dont know what is causing for some people to get it just with the Reg Edit and others having so much trouble getting to it... Let me know if anything changes on your end...
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