Is HTC EVER going to release the 2.2 kernel source?

abc27 · Sep 13, 2010

I'm really getting sick and tired of waiting for HTC to release the kernel source, it's simply not on that they can release the EVO's kernel about 2 days after it's released and the Desire is still as of yet without any source code released. Stock kernels =

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/desiresrc/

ieftm · Sep 13, 2010

I vote for starting a petition.

HTC is obliged to release the kernel sourcecode in a timely fashion when formally request under the GNU public license.

I've e-mailed them a few times about it, they gave me the run-around by saying 'oh, we can help you with that. Check developer.htc.com!'

D'oh. I hate them playing dumb.

ephumuris · Sep 13, 2010

I'd be up for signing a petition. Get one started and we can do this properly. I want overclock etc on Sense roms plz!!!

Oh and it will help us to add trackpad unlock as trackpad wake is pointless without it!!!

bradputt · Sep 13, 2010

why wouldn't google do something about it?

after all it's their OS rite?

Tawm · Sep 13, 2010

Just keep e-mailing them, they're legally obliged to release it.

teppic74 · Sep 13, 2010

HTC is in serious violation of copyright law at the moment by distributing the software but refusing to release source code to the kernel. An indefinite 'they'll get around to it' doesn't make it legal.

mercianary · Sep 13, 2010

Screw a petition.

Someone needs to take them to court. Or at least send a letter with loads of legal mumo jumbo reminding them of their obligations...

Any lawyers here with a bit of spare time...if there are I'm sure we will all give in a good word when we get to heaven for you (sorry) if you can help us.

-Mr. X- · Sep 13, 2010

As many users as possible should report HTC http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq.html

godutch · Sep 13, 2010

bradputt said:
why wouldn't google do something about it?

after all it's their OS rite?

No it's not. in truth it's everybody's OS but it belongs most to Linus Thorvalds if it belongs to anyone at all

abc27 · Sep 13, 2010

Juggalo_X said:
As many users as possible should report HTC http://gpl-violations.org/faq/violation-faq.html

Best point of action.

teppic74 · Sep 13, 2010

The GPL v2 basically says that if you distribute a binary (i.e. the kernel) you must distribute with it the source code, or provide a written offer to produce the source code on request for at least three years. If you don't meet those requirements you have no right whatsoever to distribute the code, and it's blatant copyright infringement (Linux may be free of charge, but it's copyrighted code).

ephumuris · Sep 13, 2010

Someone write to them with that information and request it then

-Mr. X- · Sep 13, 2010

Also right here

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html

The more bad press and and the more GPL type calls they get from other organizations will force them to comply with the GPL or be sued so i say we all get on it. The more users who report the more HTC gets the pressure put on. This is getting rediculous. The Incredible and the Evo had the source out with in hours of the RUU release.

wingnutta · Sep 13, 2010

Maybe if someone could write a simple piece of text on here that we could "copy and paste" maybe that would help for the links to GPL violations?.
I am all up for putting a complaint in but i wouldnt have a clue how to word it correctly to get the desired (Excuse the pun) outcome.

Just a thought

olipheus · Sep 13, 2010

I've e-mailed license-violation@gpl-violations.org and asked politely to make HTC release the code

Keep the mail adresses comming and we'll make sure that the problem gets acknowledged!

teppic74 · Sep 13, 2010

HTC's well aware of its legal obligation and frequently breaks the law anyway. Its EULA states:

Until the date that is three years after you acquired the Software, you
may obtain a copy of the source code corresponding to the binaries for
GPL-licensed file by sending a request to HTC customer service at www.
htc.com, and HTC will send you a link to such source code.

That's not actually satisfactory under the GPL (though most people would be happy with it in practice), but they don't actually do that. Requests are ignored or given a 'go to this site' response, where there's no code.

-Mr. X- · Sep 13, 2010

Users should be email HTC as well to put the pressure on.

Mr_Bartek · Sep 13, 2010

They don't want to release source code because they don't want us to mess with the frequencies (most likely). That doesn't matter though, no matter how big you are, you still have to obey the licenses.

diversificationied · Sep 13, 2010

GPL says they have 60 days after public release of software.

So... wait until days 55-60 before pulling the torches.

They did the same thing for the nexus source.

-Mr. X- · Sep 13, 2010

JCopernicus said:
GPL says they have 60 days after public release of software.

So... wait until days 55-60 before pulling the torches.

They did the same thing for the nexus source.

Are they not supposed to supply it uppon request even though.

Is HTC EVER going to release the 2.2 kernel source?

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