[Q] The correct order of root

zxz0O0 · Mar 23, 2014

cohena said:
Ok, so Should i upgrade to kit kat or wait for the root guide?

I recommend that you first root your device with 4.3 JellyBean. If you wish to upgrade to KitKat you can try my guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2688933

pcpepik confirmed it working on locked bootloader, I am waiting for some more people to confirm, then I'll update my other guide

cohena · Apr 13, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
I recommend that you first root your device with 4.3 JellyBean. If you wish to upgrade to KitKat you can try my guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2688933

pcpepik confirmed it working on locked bootloader, I am waiting for some more people to confirm, then I'll update my other guide

On next Wednesday or Thursday i am planning to root my device so i want to make sure as fot the order of the steps :
(as you adviced me i didnt upgraded to kitkat yet)

1. Upgrade my 4.3 device room with that link : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
2. After making sure thath everthing good, without updating to kitkat on my device i will preform : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2688933

Am i right?
Has the kitkit root unloock been tried and confirmed by more peaple now?
How long all the process should take?

zxz0O0 · Apr 13, 2014

cohena said:
On next Wednesday or Thursday i am planning to root my device so i want to make sure as fot the order of the steps :
(as you adviced me i didnt upgraded to kitkat yet)

1. Upgrade my 4.3 device room with that link : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2642081
2. After making sure thath everthing good, without updating to kitkat on my device i will preform : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2688933

Am i right?
Has the kitkit root unloock been tried and confirmed by more peaple now?
How long all the process should take?

You don't need to flash jelly bean rom, you can go directly to KitKat. Many people already did it successfully. If you follow this guide you'll end up with 14.3.A.0.681 Generic UK (KitKat) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2642081

The rooting process will take around 30 minutes (exclusive download time).

cohena · Apr 16, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
You don't need to flash jelly bean rom, you can go directly to KitKat. Many people already did it successfully. If you follow this guide you'll end up with 14.3.A.0.681 Generic UK (KitKat) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2642081

The rooting process will take around 30 minutes (exclusive download time).

The link to the kitkat version is the same as the link you gave me few weeks before the kitkat upgrade - did you changed the roms to
Kitkat upgreded roms?

After finishing the process(successfully, i hope...), will my device be considred as a UK one for updates and any other Sony related stuff?

Is there any way to disguise the rom to my country instead of UK, for warranty issues?

zxz0O0 · Apr 16, 2014

Yes I changed the files in my guide from JellyBean to KitKat (0.681). Yes it should be considered as UK phone. Backup the file /system/build.prop, there is some stuff like SI Number.

But they can't say anything because it's not illegal to flash firmwares from other countries

cohena · Apr 16, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
Backup the file /system/build.prop, there is some stuff like SI Number.

But they can't say anything because it's not illegal to flash firmwares from other countries

How can i backup that file? I cant see the folder /system without root ...
I am rooting my device so i can install Titanium backup - backing the device BEFORE rooting it wasnt something i thought about.
Since my device wasnt changed from the default settings(other then background image and ringtone), i thought that backing it wasnt
something that i will need to do....

Any other needed files for backing prior to the rooting?

zxz0O0 · Apr 16, 2014

Without root /system is read-only. You can backup the whole /system paritition.
Just copy busybox to your phone (you can get it for example inside dualrecovery zip).

Open cmd and type:
adb push busybox /data/local/tmp
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp
chmod 777 busybox
./busybox tar pczvf /storage/removable/sdcard1/system.tar.gz /system

Then you have a backup of /system (system.tar.gz) on your sd card.

Personally I think this backup is useless and only for paranoid people. Because the only important thing for warranty is DRM keys (TA backup).

cohena · Apr 16, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
Without root /system is read-only. You can backup the whole /system paritition.
Just copy busybox to your phone (you can get it for example inside dualrecovery zip).

Open cmd and type:
adb push busybox /data/local/tmp
adb shell
cd /data/local/tmp
chmod 777 busybox
./busybox tar pczvf /storage/removable/sdcard1/system.tar.gz /system

Then you have a backup of /system (system.tar.gz) on your sd card.

Personally I think this backup is useless and only for paranoid people. Because the only important thing for warranty is DRM keys (TA backup).

Sorry for my noobiness, but i will need more detailed help :
1. I saw on the dualrecovery installer afile without extension named busybox.
I will copy it to my SD card and then on the cmd from my xp machine backing as you wrote?
2. can i backup my entire device that way? how long should it take?
3. Any other files or other stuff i should backup before rooting the device?
4. Near my sim intake i have a sticker with my device details, that i was told not to remove - isn't that the Si number proof? what's in that file?
5. How can i resore the file after the rooting? simply copying it over?

zxz0O0 · Apr 16, 2014

1. Yes
2. You can do it with some commands. Maybe it's possible with the app called 'Rom Manager'
3. You don't need to backup anything, in my opinion it's useless. I don't know why you'd want to do it, but to each his own.
4. Can't really remember what's on that paper. But don't remove it.
5. Best would be to make a flashable zip file

Let me make something clear: This is not easy and takes a lot of time. It's pretty useless. Sony does not care what SI-Number or firmware localization you have on your device.

cohena · Apr 17, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
Let me make something clear: This is not easy and takes a lot of time. It's pretty useless. Sony does not care what SI-Number or firmware localization you have on your device.

I only went into that since you mentioned it....
What is that SI-Number and for what i might be needing it?

As I understood from you, I can completly localize the phone to suit my needs and region as my original stock rom, with the rooted UK room that I will end with, at a the pf the rooting process - am I right?

zxz0O0 · Apr 17, 2014

Yeah I was wrong with telling you about that. I see now that it only confused you more. I should have lied to you and say there is no way.
The SI-Number is used to tell the localization, branding, etc. as far as I know. For example when you update the firmware, the SI-Number is checked to serve you the proper firmware.

With the UK firmware the phone will work the same as before.

cohena · Apr 17, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
Yeah I was wrong with telling you about that. I see now that it only confused you more. I should have lied to you and say there is no way.
The SI-Number is used to tell the localization, branding, etc. as far as I know. For example when you update the firmware, the SI-Number is checked to serve you the proper firmware.

With the UK firmware the phone will work the same as before.

I rather you tell me the truth and let me do the confusing since you can unconfuse me quickly enough with your answers....

After some checking regarding the si number, i understand now what it is and i found my device Si number - can i simply edit the
rooted build.prop file with my SI number or just chosing my regional settings will update that file?

zxz0O0 · Apr 17, 2014

If you have the UK rom, the SI-Number in the build.prop file will be from the UK rom, no matter which language you choose. You can edit it, if you wish. It doesn't make any difference though.

SI-Number is important if you want to download the original rom of your country/carrier. Like in this guide on part A: http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/general/guide-download-firmware-customization-t2311211

Edit: I think there is a difference between SI-Number and customization number. The customization number is used in build.prop and in the guide I posted above. You can also find it if you type *#*#7378423#*#* in dialer and then go to Service Info => Software Info => Customization Version. I'm not sure what the difference actually is

sachilleas · Apr 17, 2014

@cohena :
He (zxz0O0) has answered you so many times . It's good to hit the thanks button from time to time for a change...
@zxz0O0 : Thank you once again for your guide. If I follow the steps you wrote, can I use the latest .757 firmware instead of the older and buggy .681 ?

zxz0O0 · Apr 17, 2014

Yes you can replace the files directly if you want. When following the steps for rooting, change the files in step 15 and 19.1 to the files from 0.757 I provide in my other thread

cohena · Apr 17, 2014

sachilleas said:
@cohena :
He (zxz0O0) has answered you so many times . It's good to hit the thanks button from time to time for a change...
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Been there, done that, the help i get here mainly by zxz0O0(but not only), is VERY much appreciated.

Regrding the file switch you mentioned, what's wrong with .681 version? does .757 version is stable enough?
I am not going tp flash my room too often so i am lloking for stable and proven firmware version....

sachilleas · Apr 17, 2014

cohena said:
Been there, done that, the help i get here mainly by zxz0O0(but not only), is VERY much appreciated.

Regrding the file switch you mentioned, what's wrong with .681 version? does .757 version is stable enough?
I am not going tp flash my room too often so i am lloking for stable and proven firmware version....

Don't install .681, it has a massive bug. Sound comes from earpiece sometimes (randomly) instead of speaker. Sony released .757 to solve this!

cohena · Apr 22, 2014

sachilleas said:
Don't install .681, it has a massive bug. Sound comes from earpiece sometimes (randomly) instead of speaker. Sony released .757 to solve this!

does the .757 is stable and bug free(as of yet)?

where can i get it?

When rooting according to the guide, whenever i am pointed to .681 i will replace it with .757?

zxz0O0 · Apr 22, 2014

Yes, you can directly replace the files or upgrade to 0.757 later on with my guide. If you want to replace to files directly, use the 0.757 files from my firmware update guide.

cohena · Apr 24, 2014

zxz0O0 said:
Yes, you can directly replace the files or upgrade to 0.757 later on with my guide. If you want to replace to files directly, use the 0.757 files from my firmware update guide.

There are few .757 roms at your guide, what are diefrences and which one do i need?
Are they all rooted?

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