[2017.08.02] DSLR Controller v1.05

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Chainfire

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New updated for Nexus 7 Tablets has the buttons bigger than normal, focusing buttons and everything taking space for the Live View :(

¿Any option to select what type of layout do you prefer?

The old layout was way too small, very many complaints. Maybe the new one is a little too big ? I'll look at maybe a compromise between the two.

Hi, Chainfire, a quick question. I looked through the thread and I understand why external flashes aren't triggered. But if the remote release can do it may be it's possible to incorporate this functionality into the controller as well. I know that I can do it from DPP, but it'd much rather use a smaller device.

Does the external flash trigger if you turn liveview off ? (top-left button)

If so, have you disabled silent mode in liveview settings and does it still not work ?

In the planned features list it mentions dumping pictures to the Android device. Fantastic, I would just like to add that it would be nice (and incredibly easy) to incorporate the Dropbox* API, so that images could be dumped directly into the cloud, with an option to retain a local copy or remove it once the cloud has it.

* (or similar service, I'm not too picky, I just happen to favor Dropbox because it runs on Linux)

I don't know how much work it would be, I'd love to be able to consume the remote control functionality (also from the list of planned features) via SL4A in addition to other devices, that way I could edit the automation scripts directly on the tablet if I don't have a laptop handy.

All things considered, this looks like an amazing app! And as soon as my OTG adapter arrives I plan to buy a copy ASAP. Can't wait for 1.0!

Dropbox support is definitely being considered, as it seems (have not really confirmed) they have a proper API outside of the share button functionality, which in itself is problematic for DSLR Controller due to Android's architecture (long story)

Scripting has taken a back seat for the time being.
 
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The old layout was way too small, very many complaints. Maybe the new one is a little too big ? I'll look at maybe a compromise between the two.

This is the only screenshot I have from the old layout:
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And this is the new one:
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For a Smartphone new layout works great, but with a 7" tablet or 10", it's too big :(
I think the most common issue with layout would be the little buttons for select your shutter speed.

I think I have to upgrade my old 450D, too many features and Live View not working great for old fast lenses with mount adapters. (Too dark), I have to put the camera on "p mode" and then back to manual.

Feature request caching the recent pictures, without re-downloading them each time for the camera (RAW). And Full screen preview of the raw on gallery mode!
 

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This is the only screenshot I have from the old layout:

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For a Smartphone new layout works great, but with a 7" tablet or 10", it's too big :(
I think the most common issue with layout would be the little buttons for select your shutter speed.

I already said I would modify it, and in my development build I already did. It's about halfway between old and new size. As for smartphone or 10" tablets - those don't even use the same layout files... On 10" the buttons are bigger, yes, but I vastly prefer them that way.
 
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Amazing with new cameras

Having fun with a friend who has a 550D.
550D with Yashica 50mm 1.4 C/Y

With 550D focusing adjust buttons disappear (manual lense)
With 450D the buttons for focusing waste to much live view.

With 550D the app truly shines!

Thanks for your work, TEST shot.
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Nikon! Yes Please! And don't forget D3100

I see that you may be the only developer of this kind of software that considers writing for my device - a rooted Nook Color. So this may be jumping the gun a bit, but when you get around to adding a Nikon version of your software, please don't forget to support the lower end cameras like the D3100. It seems that those of us that can't shell out for a pro body get no love!

My goal is to eventually use my Nook entirely as a support device for my photography habit, and this would be THE major component. And when you get to that point and need some pre-release testing, I would gladly help out. And if it's better than the stuff out there now, it's probably sellable at more than $8 a copy.
 
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So this may be jumping the gun a bit, but when you get around to adding a Nikon version of your software, please don't forget to support the lower end cameras like the D3100. It seems that those of us that can't shell out for a pro body get no love!

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I've been around since day two of this thread, and while it's clearly a great app for Canon shooters, there's not even the start of progress for any other platform over 13 months later.

That's understandable and no knock against DSLR Controller; Canon has the most users, and so that's where the money is. I'm no longer holding my breath for any other brand, though...
 

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I see that you may be the only developer of this kind of software that considers writing for my device - a rooted Nook Color. So this may be jumping the gun a bit, but when you get around to adding a Nikon version of your software, please don't forget to support the lower end cameras like the D3100. It seems that those of us that can't shell out for a pro body get no love!

My goal is to eventually use my Nook entirely as a support device for my photography habit, and this would be THE major component. And when you get to that point and need some pre-release testing, I would gladly help out. And if it's better than the stuff out there now, it's probably sellable at more than $8 a copy.

I wouldn't get your hopes up. I've been around since day two of this thread, and while it's clearly a great app for Canon shooters, there's not even the start of progress for any other platform over 13 months later.

That's understandable and no knock against DSLR Controller; Canon has the most users, and so that's where the money is. I'm no longer holding my breath for any other brand, though...

Lack of time, and lack of equipment. And even then, due to the complexity of DSLR Controller, I would probably have to build a second app completely. It is still on my list to do though, but Nikon has dropped a bit in priority, due to their newer models supporting browser based remote control already ... the target market shrinks daily.
 

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redirecting live view to a v4l2loopback

Hi,

Is it possible to redirect the live view to a v4l2loopback and use the new "camera" as input for Skype / Google talk ?

Thanks,
Amit
 

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I know this isn't the thread for it, but last posting bout this was back in December of 2011. We know you're busy, and can't answer all emails. Will we ever get it back? Some of us did pay for chainfire specifically for CFLUMEN. Just looking for some info as to what's up?
 

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I know this isn't the thread for it, but last posting bout this was back in December of 2011. We know you're busy, and can't answer all emails. Will we ever get it back? Some of us did pay for chainfire specifically for CFLUMEN. Just looking for some info as to what's up?

You're right, this isn't the right thread. As is stated in many places (including CF3D's app description) it is only for Froyo and Gingerbread, and not fully compatible with HC/ICS (not at all compatible with JB, even). Also, as has been stated in many places, the entire Android renderer has been thrown around first in HC/ICS and then again in JB. It is unlikely for CF3D functionality to even still be possible - and if it is, it would still require me to rebuild the entire application again from scratch. Furthermore, the functionality CF3D is built for is quickly becoming impossible.Emulation of newer graphics cards is becoming impossibly complex - the latest mobile GPUs rival desktop GPU complexity from a few years ago. When CF3D was originally built the GPUs were pretty simple. As CF.lumen depends on these functionalities, as such it will not be fixed. However, if you're using a Samsung device there may be some hope in the form of this app: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1824068. I've been toying with the idea to implement CF.lumen functionalities in it (as it's open source) but at the moment I don't have the time to do it.
 
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Momo8 compatibility?

I have posted this in the Remote Release support thread, but there is no activity there and this thread seems quite active.

I have bought a Momo8 Bird tablet (sorry I can't post a link, but if you google GTR Momo8 you will find the spec). I have the OTG cable, and have no problem connecting and mounting a USB flash drive.
Remote Release will not 'see' my Canon 7D when I connect it.

I have run USB Host Diagnostics using the flash drive and the camera and get the following:
Android API
Claim Support: No
Classes Found: Yes
Device Detected: No
Rooted API
Claim Support: Yes
Device Detected: Yes
Kernel
Claim Support: Yes
Device Detected: Yes
Verdict
OS Support: Yes
3rd Party App: Rooted

I have used USB Host Controller version 0.44 which tells me:
S3C Host Driver NOT found
Root hub present, USB Host Mode is active.
Under Connected USB devices
8176:0bda
Realtek 802.11n WLAN Adapter
319a:04a9
Canon Inc. Canon Digital Camera

When I connect the camera, I get no pop-up. I start the Remote Release app manually, but always get the message 'Could not find a compatible camera'.

I am hoping to buy the full DSLR Controller app as it sounds great. I was using Remote Release to test for compatibility.

Please help!
 
When I connect the camera, I get no pop-up. I start the Remote Release app manually, but always get the message 'Could not find a compatible camera'.

I am hoping to buy the full DSLR Controller app as it sounds great. I was using Remote Release to test for compatibility.

Please help!

Sounds like it may be power related. Not all devices can supply enough power to the USB port. I have this same issue when I try to use my Bionic. To make it work, I use a Y-cable and a USB External battery pack . You may want to test it with a Y-Cable and plug the extra power end into a Laptop or USB Charger to see if it works. If it does, I have successfully tested my Bionic with a Very small 600mAh USB battery. You can get one at Walmart or such. If it does not work, take it back. For actual use, I have a much bigger battery. The Y-cable is a regular old
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Hi

Firstly great app :)


Since the latest update on my Nexus 7, when viewing the exposure screen the save and close button is disappearing off the bottom of the screen, I would post a screen shot but I am not allowed yet.

Thanks
 
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Lack of time, and lack of equipment. And even then, due to the complexity of DSLR Controller, I would probably have to build a second app completely. It is still on my list to do though, but Nikon has dropped a bit in priority, due to their newer models supporting browser based remote control already ... the target market shrinks daily.

Damn, that really sucks...

I own a D7000 and a D90 and am really starting to envy Canon because of all the 3rd party support (Apps like this, Magic lantern, ect)... But sadly I have way too much invested in gear to ever considering change.

I have been keeping an eye on this program for over a year now and have been checking the forums at least weekly ever since you mentioned back in February that you had planned to start on Nikon support (but couldn't at that stage). Needless to say if Nikon support/a Nikon version was announced, I would buy it on day 1 (and i know I'm certainly not alone here)

So please don't forget about us, Nikon still has the 2nd largest market share after Canon and we certainly don't have the level of 3rd party support that Canon users enjoy... So it would be really nice to have an awesome app like yours.
 
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I've tried this on a bauhn tablet running ics, it can't find my 5d mk ii.

I've tried this on a bauhn tablet running ics, it can't find my 5d mk ii.

This other app ML controller can see the camera but only When using native kernel driver. It doesn't work using the android API
This thread describes the other app perhaps you could talk to the developer?
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1527773

Paul
 

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I've tried this on a bauhn tablet running ics, it can't find my 5d mk ii.

This other app ML controller can see the camera but only When using native kernel driver. It doesn't work using the android API
This thread describes the other app perhaps you could talk to the developer?
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1527773

No, you should talk to your tablet manufacturer. Native kernel driver (DSLR Controller actually does have one as well, which is used for various devices) is in absolutely no way supported, nor should it be. It's an ugly hack for broken firmwares. Your tablet's firmware is broken. Talk to the manufacturer.
 
How are you guys having success with stock plus root Sprint sgs3 and Canon 550d?

This is twice I have tried this app with no success. Being I refunded once on the last version thru Google, disallowing me to refund again thru Google. At 8$, I want to support the developer, and use the app; having it not function correctly I can't keep it. So I would like help before I ask for refund.

The app detects my camera, but freezes when it starts up, and kicks up my camera until I unplug. A lot of unresponsive attempts to get this working. I can not.



Sent front my SGS3 Epic 4GLTE Touch
 

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How are you guys having success with stock plus root Sprint sgs3 and Canon 550d?

This is twice I have tried this app with no success. Being I refunded once on the last version thru Google, disallowing me to refund again thru Google. At 8$, I want to support the developer, and use the app; having it not function correctly I can't keep it. So I would like help before I ask for refund.

The app detects my camera, but freezes when it starts up, and kicks up my camera until I unplug. A lot of unresponsive attempts to get this working. I can not.



Sent front my SGS3 Epic 4GLTE Touch

I have a tmobile gs3 and t2i. The app loads properly about half the time. It will automatically load and my camera shows busy, but it doesn't connect. The application often becomes unresponsive and I have to force close it. My guess is there are some bugs with the gs3 that need to be sorted out.

I am on cm10 so that MAY be part of my problem. Will try on stock.

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    In an effort to de-duplicate a lot of information, I have moved the bulk of it to the DSLR Controller website. This thread still remains the place to get support, discuss, and ask questions, though!

    DSLR Controller was the first and remains the best app to fully control your Canon EOS DSLR from your Android device, through USB cable or Wi-Fi connection. No computer or laptop required, no root required, only a compatible mobile device, a compatible camera, and if connecting through USB, the right cable.

    We strongly suggest you read up on the website ( http://dslrcontroller.com/ ) about what DSLR Controller can do, how it works, and how to use it, before purchasing. The website contains a wealth of information you should know before using.

    Not all devices are compatible, especially if you want to use a USB connection. For a free app you can use to test compatibility, see the "Remote Release" app ( http://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.remoterelease ). If you need a refund, go to our website ( http://dslrcontroller.com/ ) and follow the instructions in the FAQ entry. We cannot process refunds through email.

    Usage notes, feature lists, device compatibility lists, changelogs, FAQs, can all be found on our website: http://dslrcontroller.com/

    Most questions should go to the support and discussion thread at XDA-Developers.com:
    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1202082


    Features

    Features include but are not limited to:

    - Live View
    - Auto Focus (tap Live View)
    - Manual focus adjustments (in AF mode)
    - Histogram
    - Zoom control
    - Grid and aspect ratio overlay
    - Bulb capture
    - Continuous capture
    - Image review (+ follow shot, gallery)
    - Image filters (peaking, contrast, channel mask, grayscale, 4 modes/filter)
    - Video recording
    - HDR/Auto Exposure Bracketing
    - Focus Bracketing (incl. HDR)
    - Focus A-B
    - Mirror Lockup support
    - Timelapse (incl. HDR)
    - Wi-Fi Passthrough
    - Extensive modification of settings
    -- Shutter speed
    -- Aperture
    -- ExpComp and Bracket
    -- ISO speed
    -- Auto-Focus Mode
    -- Focus and Zoom area (tap-and-hold Live View)
    -- Picture Style
    -- Drive Mode
    -- White Balance
    -- Color Temperature
    -- Auto-Lighting Optimizer
    -- Metering Mode
    -- Image and video quality and format

    Available options depend on the mode you have your camera set to (M, Av, Tv, etc) and camera model. Refer to the website ( http://dslrcontroller.com/ ) for further details.


    Supported Android devices:

    If you are connecting using Wi-Fi, virtually all modern Android devices are supported (your camera needs Wi-Fi support, though). If you are connecting over USB, your device needs USB host support - most recent devices do. Please see the 'Devices' section on our website ( https://dslrcontroller.com/devices.php ) for further information.

    If your camera only supports USB, you can modify a TL-MR3040 to provide a Wi-Fi connection ( http://dslrcontroller.com/guide-wifi_mr3040.php )


    Supported Canon EOS models:

    Newer cameras than listed below are usually supported.

    Full support:
    - 1D Mark IV
    - 1D X
    - 1D X Mark II
    - 5D Mark II
    - 5D Mark III
    - 5D Mark IV
    - 5Ds(r)
    - 50D
    - 500D
    - 550D
    - 6D
    - 60D
    - 600D
    - 650D
    - 7D
    - 7D Mark II
    - 70D
    - 700D
    - 750D
    - 760D
    - 80D
    - 1100D
    - 1200D
    - 1300D
    - 100D

    Limited support:
    - 1D mk III
    - 1Ds mk III
    - 30D
    - 40D
    - 400D
    - 450D
    - 1000D

    No support:
    - pre-2006 models
    - EOS M mirrorless devices (work in progress)


    Let us know which hardware you are using with DSLR Controller!
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    Must-read information

    Screenshots and video:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/about.php

    Download, BETA usage notes, and changelogs:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/download.php

    Table of supported Android devices and Canon EOS DSLRs:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/devices.php

    FAQ:
    http://dslrcontroller.com/faq.php
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    I am a professional architectural photographer and have adopted your DSLR app into my workflow. Thank you for the great design and amazing functionality. It is a pleasure to work with*.

    I would like to know what the future holds for DSLR Contorller. I noticed you are not very active on this forum (last post on 2/26/2015), but wanted to encourage you to keep on developing because I, We need it!!!

    ...
    .

    DSLR Controller was originally built for Android 2.x years ago, and a lot of things have changed both in the camera world as well as the mobile world. Despite bolting on many improvements, the code shows its age. To take it to the next level and get everything I want into it (customizability, compatibility, portability, speed, etc), a lot of the core needs to be changed, the UI needs to be changed (if not in appearance or functionality then certainly how it's been coded), etc. It pretty much comes down to not just overhauling major parts, but completely redoing it from scratch, and rebuilding it as envisioned from the ground up.

    This brings with it a number of issues. It is a lot of development time (and thus money) investment up front, of which you will see no results, until it is almost done. In the mean time, you can't really release anything that isn't up to par with the current version of DSLR Controller, and you can't just replace the current version as old users/devices may no longer be compatible, stranding paying customers. A lot of additional equipment needs to be gotten and tested with to ensure compatibility and portability (remote and end-user testing isn't really workable with apps like these). Not to mention that DSLRs are pretty much doomed, and this is definitely being reflected in daily sales.

    The past year hasn't been very good on a personal level, which isn't your problem of course, but it is one reason for the lapse in development of certain apps. This one adds to the fact that in light of the above, it feels like a waste of resources to spend a lot of time on improvements in the current app. There have been talks with a team (from a big brand in the camera world) to take over the IP, pretty much solving the resource problem, but ultimately that fell through, after the talks taking up a large part of my time for months.

    Also, I know it seems like DSLR Controller has generated a lot of funds, but spread out over the years its been available, subtracting equipment costs, corporate taxes, wage taxes, etc, you wouldn't be able to hire one(!) half-competent coder for the money left at today's going rates, not to mention the risks involved with hiring people. Even though I do get paid and get all these toys to play with, wanting to build it has always been a large part of this, as there are definitely more profitable ways to spend the time. At the same time having to compete with $300 equipment, and people still complaining about the $8 price.

    This app is also a complete nightmare to support, as by far the bulk of the connection issues are not due to the app itself, but due to camera configuration, phone configuration, hardware incompatibilities, firmware incompatibilities, etc. That is, excepting the case where DSLR Controller just hangs, which sometimes (but definitely not always) is an issue with the app. Not to mention the droves of questions and reported issues by people who simply don't understand how their cameras work.

    All of that being said, I do believe there may be a business case where a rebuild with additional features and support for Nikon and/or Sony and/or (insert other brands here) and other OSs like Linux, iOS, OS X, Windows, etc using a shared core may at least break even. That is, providing I can find competent developers to do it (as there is no way I can pull this off by myself), and finding said competent developers with at least somewhat relevant skills might in fact be the biggest problem to solve. Still, even in the best case scenario, I don't believe any work will get started before end-of-summer.

    Don't mistake the lack of visible activity for lack of interest. What to do with DSLR Controller and how to get there is something I consider every day, as in the end, it's still the app I've enjoyed most developing over the years. But if the solution means spending more resources updating the current app, developing a new one, or investing funds to get a whole new company off the ground with a handful of people to cover both major brands and major OSs - that I don't know yet. But I do hope to have an answer to that sooner rather than later.

    (this post was written in a rush as I need to run for another appointment but I didn't want to leave this unsaid, so if it's jumping here and there and not fully coherent, that's why)
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    Hey Chainfire, I was wondering if there was an ETA for the next update? I know asking such things is never liked, Im not looking for a hard date just a rough idea and if there is anything else we can do to help?

    After next week I have three weeks reserved for exclusive DSLR Controller work, if that doesn't finished the upcoming update, I'd be surprised :)
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    The price will go up once v1.0 is reached, but the upgrade is free for those who have this BETA???

    Why can't I see free version?

    Because it's good software and the developer deserves to get paid. Beta doesn't mean it's not valuable, it means that the software isn't very mature or well tested. if you want it now, you pay. If you want to pay once it's well tested and proven then wait.

    Either way, quit your sniveling people. This is an AMAZING deal at that price. If you can afford a DSLR and know how to use it, you can afford 10 times this and would gladly pay it. If you think otherwise, you likely don't need this software to begin with and have nothing to complain about.