Just flashed the new CM10.1 over CM10, updated gapps, wiped dalvik cache and formatted cache for good measure and everything works great. Well, except for bluetooth, apparently, but I have nothing to test it on so I won't miss it for now anyway. Now if I can figure out how to get it to display in tablet mode instead of phablet mode, but I guess I need to go digging around in the CM10.1 thread for that.
Likewise, flashed cm10.1 over cm10 and all's well. The non-tablet display seems to be a regular problem with 10.1. There were a lot of people upset about google's decision to make it the unalterable default for the nexus 7, for instance. I'm just living with it for the moment, but would be more than happy if somebody figures out how to reinstate table mode. Oh, one other thing somebody pointed out in verygreen's hd+ cm10.1 thread that the new cm10.1 rom makes the hd+ think it's a phone, so there's a bunch of battery wasted looking for cell service....
I also find the display annoying. What the heck? Kinda excited that it works but not sure I'm happy with it looking like a very large phone.
Sent using my nook HD+ running cm10 hybrid SD from Tapatalk HD
I also find the display annoying. What the heck? Kinda excited that it works but not sure I'm happy with it looking like a very large phone.
Sent using my nook HD+ running cm10 hybrid SD from Tapatalk HD
I'm excited; the bar down below had very limited functionality and is/was taking a ton of screen state. Having it on the top is m,ore intuitive, and also giving it a dual functionality (toggles on the right and notifications on the left) makes it very functional and it takes over little screen estate...
As for the software buttons I never really like them so with the notification/toggle bar in a different place I can finally disable the dreaded button bar I much prefer to have gesture and or PIE to move around than this ugly dormant linear thing that I may or may not press by mistake when playing or surfing the web.
I'm pretty much using cm10.1 since January for this reason alone, it's so very functional the new Google's scheme that I cannot even begin to understand how I could even use the pre 4.2 debacle...
Hi Stevethegreat,
I also hate the button bar at the bottom. Can you please shed some light on disabling the button bar and also what gesture/PIE you are referring to as a substitute for button bar.
Thanks
I also hate the button bar at the bottom. Can you please shed some light on disabling the button bar and also what gesture/PIE you are referring to as a substitute for button bar.
Thanks
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PIE controls is a hidden soft buttons menu that you swipe in existence when you want to use one or any of them. I much prefer it over the dormant bar. It's been baked into mainline cm since last month, here's how it looks like. So a long as very green used fresh cm sources it will be right there embedded in his new ROM as an option... I'm sorry I haven't installed his new version yet so I'm not sure if it is there or not so yo have to go there looking... If is not embedded then you'd have to disable the navigation bar manually, either -again- from a settings' option or by using an app called fullscreentoggle...
Lastly you can use gestures to go around using GMD gesture control, but be warned that it doesn't come free from the store. There is a gmd lite version lately but I haven't used it so I don't know how capable is it, it would be probably be best to try the free version first to see if it suits you... What GMD does pretty much is letting you assign multi finger gestures to simulate functions including the ones executed by the soft buttons...it also let's you use your screen's edges as buttons...
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Thanks StevetheGreat. I will try your suggestions tonight.
Cheers,
Vish
Cheers,
Vish
I'm glad that you like the new screen arrangement. I can see that there are advantages to it. But what irritates me is that there isn't any way to toggle back to the old behavior for those of us that preferred that. They seem to have gone out of their way to make it impossible to revert to the old behavior.
Well if its any consolation (which probably isn't ), I used to find this setup silly too, I.e. having an almost phone like environment it was after days of use that I grew fond of it...
The truth of the matter is that Google does the notification bar very well she was the first to introduce it as an essential part of her os and they continue evolving it... They probably felt that having a branch of their products shun away from such a "technical marvel" is probably not seen as a genius move so they put it back.
I'm with you there should have been choice, but seeing how advanced they keep getting the notification bar (almost complete control of certain apps w/t even accessing them by this point) I can see why they d want people to get used to it and it alone
For those of you wanting the Tablet interface on CM10.1, go to this thread:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38147267
It has worked successfully on the Nook Colors running CM10.1. I have no idea if anyone can get it working on the HD+, but the authors of that thread say that it should work on any device with CM10.1.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38147267
It has worked successfully on the Nook Colors running CM10.1. I have no idea if anyone can get it working on the HD+, but the authors of that thread say that it should work on any device with CM10.1.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
I *totally* agree about the good job they've done. I really like the new notification bar. It's just that I'd like to see an option to move the various elements of the notification bar and button bar to wherever I want them. There's plenty of room on the bottom bar for all of those functions. I use both hands to support the nook, and if I have to move one hand to the top, it's a whole juggling act. And the 3 buttons that are currently in the middle of the bottom bar are too far away to access easily with my thumbs, so I like having the option to move them to one side or the other. Everybody has their preferred setup, and it shouldn't be that hard to make it flexible enough for everyone.
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Thanks, that looks good. But I don't really want to have to recompile a new rom every day. I'd just like to have cm (and google) put some flexibility into the system. Doesn't seem like it should be that hard. If I wanted a consistent, rigidly enforced UI, I'd get an iPhone (not really, but you see what I mean)
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Thanks, that looks good. But I don't really want to have to recompile a new rom every day. I'd just like to have cm (and google) put some flexibility into the system. Doesn't seem like it should be that hard. If I wanted a consistent, rigidly enforced UI, I'd get an iPhone (not really, but you see what I mean)
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I see what you mean. While I can grow to appreciate the top section with notification on left and settings on the right, it's the lower portion that I don't think I'll grow to appreciate. Like you, I would prefer to have a choice on where the "back / home / recently used" buttons are located.
I haven't actually gotten a lot of time to play with it since I added CM10.1. Hopefully tomorrow night I'll get more opportunity to spend some quality time with it.
Sent using my nook HD+ running cm10.1 hybrid SD from Tapatalk HD
Hi Mate,
Which rom did you select from the list for Nook HD+?
Thanks in advance.
Vishal
Which rom did you select from the list for Nook HD+?
Thanks in advance.
Vishal
BTW I've never grown to appreciate the lower part, so I removed it altogether... yeah I know... drastic move but I found better alternatives...
Thanks leapinlar. Was able to use the Windows Auto-Patcher successfully against the 0422 ROM. I prefer this interface with the notifications at the bottom.
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All the files are for 7" Samsung Tabs, which one is supposed to work for the HD+?
No, they get compiled for your device when you follow their instructions. Then they work for the HD/HD+.
Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10 on Hybrid SD
That thread has download links for the Auto-Patcher utility. You are supposed to download that utility and point it at the ROM you are using. The utility generates the zip to be applied to patch the UI. Don't use the Samsung specific files in that thread.
I have attached the zip's that the utility generates for 0422 ROM. Reboot to recovery, apply the *-tabletUI-*-update.zip to change UI to tablet UI and clear the cache/dalvik cache. Presumably the *-restore.zip is for restoring back to original ROM - i didn't verify whether it works.
The patch isn't without glitches. The history of apps used repaints the screen and pops up in the middle. Some stuff is skewed when tapping the status at right bottom. Still it's a lot better than stock 10.1 IMO.
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To see the original Hybrid setup click on the Show Content button.
I believe the below modifications will still work on Bokokan's HD+ Hybrid. They worked on his HD version so they should work on his HD+ version, but I have not tested them.
Optional Modification to allow Stock to use the Hybrid SD for media storage.
If you want to use the Hybrid sdcard partition to store your media files while running stock, flash one of the four zips I made to help with that. They can be flashed with either the CM Hybrid CWM or my stock CWM. I have them hard coded so they will only effect the settings on stock. One zip, NookHD-HDplus-stock-fix-vold-for-dual-boot-hybrid.zip, will set stock so that it sees the Hybrid SD partition 3 (CM10SDCARD) as ext_sdcard under stock. That way you can access the files that CM puts there and CM can access the files stock puts there. Another zip, NookHD-HDplus-stock-fix-vold-for-dual-boot-hybrid-swapped.zip, will do the same thing but have ext_sdcard and sdcard swapped on stock much like my SDswap zip did. And a third zip, NookHD-HDplus-stock-return-vold-to-stock-settings.zip, will take stock back to the original settings if you want to use an ordinary SD with it. A fourth zip will remove the SDswap feature in stock if you installed it and want to leave the ability to see the Hybrid SD CM10SDCARD partition with stock.
New Stock CWM modified to be compatible with the Hybrid
This setup uses more of your internal data space so if you use older stock CWMs it means larger stock backups as it will backup the SD information along with the stock information. And if you wipe /data with the old CWM it will delete your new SD files. And if you restore an older stock backup with the old CWM, it will overwrite your SD files. I have modified the stock CWM so that when it wipes /data or backs up/restores /data it ignores and does not touch the information stored there for the SD operation. And you can restore old stock backups with the new stock CWM without worry. You can get the new rev3 of HD+ CWM for stock on my HD/HD+ CWM thread.
Swapping emmc and CM10SDCARD
Some users have a small SD card and want their apps to use the large internal media storage to store their data. I have developed a couple of zips to swap the internal and external SDs when booted to CM so your apps can use internal memory, one to add the swap and one to remove it. Get them attached below.
These zips can be flashed with CWM but will only install to the HD/HD+ Hybrid SD with CM. I just added rev2 which fixes a bug. If you already flashed rev0 or rev1, you need to flash the remove zip before you flash the rev2.
With rev2, both SDCARD and EMMC will show internal media storage, as will both MTP folders. A new folder, called ext_sdcard, will show the external Hybrid media partition.
I removed the manual instructions, it got too complicated.
Hybrid on the HD
Big thanks goes to bokbokan for working out the details of this scheme on the HD. All I did was adapt it to the HD+. For those of you with an HD and you have not read about bokbokan's Hybrid for the HD, you can read about it and get his image zip here. But his Hybrid only works on his CM10.1 ROMs. But with his CM10.1, there is no need to convert them. His has them all ready for his Hybrid setup. You can get his ROMs here. You can use my vold zips posted here for modifying stock to see his Hybrid SD, they work on both devices. And you can get rev3 of my stock HD CWM that has been modified to be compatible with his Hybrid SD on my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature.
Conclusion
I have tested this setup on both CM10 and CM10.1. It definitely runs faster and is more stable. I even have been using it on my PNY 8GB card that I could not even get to work with CM 7.2 on my Nook Color. It runs great now. And I tried the 1/20 version of CM10 that rebooted on me four times the first day I tried that version on my old setup. It has not rebooted once on this setup.
And I just tested it on a 2GB SD. It installs and runs fine. The only difference is it only has a 1GB CM10SDCARD partition.
But it is a work-in-progress so there may be bugs. If you have feedback or questions, reply to this thread. If you are a new user and cannot post here, post on my HD/HD+ tips thread here. Please do not send me private messages or emails. By posting in the forums others get a chance to help you and if I answer your question in the forum, others can see my response and it may help them too. If you post comments on verygreen's ROM threads, be sure to mention you are running his ROM on the Hybrid, including any special modifications you may have made here, like running different kernels.3
It's not the kernel, it's nook hardware that's faulty, I believe.
The 2.1.0 kernel update includes some more bandaids in this area that I've yet to try.
With stock kernels I had Sandisk class 4 cards working fine in 2.0.0 release only (the one where they 100% match vanilla kernel code in emmc area, U-1 cards had problems, though), once they started to add workarounds in 2.0.2, problems appeared on all kinds of cards, including class 4.
We'll see what 2.1.0 changes bring us (I see they now do retries on io errors)2Change Log
Change Log
05/28/13 - no further development will be done on this Hybrid system.
05/14/13 - updated converter zip to rev3 to work with latest CM10.1 ROMS
04/23/13 - updated image zip to rev1, making it easier to install /data to internal memory after initial setup
04/10/13 - added warning about running CM10.1 on Hybrid (removed 4/23)
03/26/13 - removed fix 2/20 ROM zips
03/16/13 - added rev2 of the converter zip which also modifies the boot files so it is easy to boot between SD and stock.
03/09/13 - fixed one more bug where the swap would not work on CM10.1 (rev2), removed manual description
03/08/13 - fixed bug in swap zips, rev1 added, edited manual method
03/03/13 - added zip for swapping emmc and CM10SDCARD for users with small SDs, renamed stock swap removal zip
03/02/13 - added swapping emmc and CM10SDCARD for users with small SDs
02/23/13 - added more information about the HD version of Hybrid
02/20/13 - added fix CM10 2/20 zip and minor mod to return vold to stock zip (rev2)
02/18/13 - initial issue and minor change to converter zip for CM10.1 (rev1) and minor change to returning stock vold to original setting2
That thread has download links for the Auto-Patcher utility. You are supposed to download that utility and point it at the ROM you are using. The utility generates the zip to be applied to patch the UI. Don't use the Samsung specific files in that thread.
I have attached the zip's that the utility generates for 0422 ROM. Reboot to recovery, apply the *-tabletUI-*-update.zip to change UI to tablet UI and clear the cache/dalvik cache. Presumably the *-restore.zip is for restoring back to original ROM - i didn't verify whether it works.
The patch isn't without glitches. The history of apps used repaints the screen and pops up in the middle. Some stuff is skewed when tapping the status at right bottom. Still it's a lot better than stock 10.1 IMO.
