Battery draining on Cellular Network even no SIM card inserted

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crisahan

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just fully charged it last night, play a bit, battery was at 90% when i went to bed, wifi was on, i even had the juice defender installed.

when i got up this morning (6 hr sleep), the battery has 50% left! when i check the battery usage, Cellular Network is the one used battery most, says 30%, then Phone idle came second with 25%. is that normal? ( I don't think so...) even the phone in idle mode it used that much battery? and even i don't have a SIM card in the phone, the Cellular Network still consuming battery?
 

farfromovin

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Sounds like it was searching for the network all night. I would hope it'd be smart enough to just stop, but apparently not! I'm sure it'd sleep like a baby in airplane mode.
 

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just fully charged it last night, play a bit, battery was at 90% when i went to bed, wifi was on, i even had the juice defender installed.

when i got up this morning (6 hr sleep), the battery has 50% left! when i check the battery usage, Cellular Network is the one used battery most, says 30%, then Phone idle came second with 25%. is that normal? ( I don't think so...) even the phone in idle mode it used that much battery? and even i don't have a SIM card in the phone, the Cellular Network still consuming battery?

If the radio is on it'll consume power - and with no SIM card inserted, unless you enter airplane mode, it'll leave the radio on for emergency calls.

Might even consume MORE power in that configuration. I've noticed that Qualcomm devices often behave badly in terms of power consumption when they don't have a SIM.
 

krabman

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Yep, way more. I work in AK and you often leave coverage, do so without going in to airplane and the battery will plummet as quickly as if you are on an active call because your phone is constantly searching for a network. Some phone will search for a while and then take a break and resume after a set interval. These are not as bad but you're still way ahead of the game going to airplane until you get in coverage.

Some people are not aware that you can go into airplane and then turn on WiFi after.
 

dc82

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Anyone else have OppoKinectService.apk show up as a major contributor towards battery drain? When I look at my battery consumption history its always between 30%-40%. Does anyone know what that app does or controls?
 

dc82

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Isn't that the service which controls the off screen gestures?

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Not sure to be honest. I have all gestures turned off and yet I still have the drain. Only gesture I have enabled still is knock on/off. That can't account for that much drain. Unless they are still working out the kinks in color OS
 

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You're either out our you're in because enabling one requires the phone to standby for a potential input every bit as much as enabling them all. You do benefit from killing the voice because the phone no longer has to keep a live mic going or use cycles trying to parse out whether you did or did not use the trigger phrase.
 

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Anyone else have OppoKinectService.apk show up as a major contributor towards battery drain? When I look at my battery consumption history its always between 30%-40%. Does anyone know what that app does or controls?

Yes, I posted on the Oppo Google+ community yesterday on this very thing. My battery life is atrocious! I even reloaded the phone after a few days (to rule out an app). I have tried everything under the sun to improve the battery performance, even turning the LTE off and going with Edge service - made very little difference. I love the hardware, but this is ridiculous. I understand each phone has its nuance, but there is a limit. Thankfully, Oppo included an extra battery. Perhaps with this freebie, they acknowledge battery drain? Thankful for the rapid charger too. I hope a firmware release is on the way that will address the battery drain issues.
 

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You're either out our you're in because enabling one requires the phone to standby for a potential input every bit as much as enabling them all. You do benefit from killing the voice because the phone no longer has to keep a live mic going or use cycles trying to parse out whether you did or did not use the trigger phrase.

I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.

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Yes, I posted on the Oppo Google+ community yesterday on this very thing. My battery life is atrocious! I even reloaded the phone after a few days (to rule out an app). I have tried everything under the sun to improve the battery performance, even turning the LTE off and going with Edge service - made very little difference. I love the hardware, but this is ridiculous. I understand each phone has its nuance, but there is a limit. Thankfully, Oppo included an extra battery. Perhaps with this freebie, they acknowledge battery drain? Thankful for the rapid charger too. I hope a firmware release is on the way that will address the battery drain issues.

I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.
 

farfromovin

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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.

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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.

Wow, 7 hrs screen time is incredible. You must have everything off, Greenfield, etc...
 

dc82

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Wow, 7 hrs screen time is incredible. You must have everything off, Greenfield, etc...

At that point I still had the knock on/off gesture enabled. I just had other gestures off. After disabling the knock feature I noticed the OppoKinectService stopped appearing in my battery manager so I guess that solves that.
 

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I've done a hard reset and disables all gestures so will run it for a day and see.

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I don't get poor battery life by any means. I got 13+ hours yesterday with 7+ hours of on screen time. I just want to know where that drain is coming from and if it can be avoided and yield better battery life.

Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:
 

dc82

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Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:

Shows a little over 6 hours. I didn't take another screen shot before reseting and recharging the phone but by end of it I was right at 7 hours.
 

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So what's your secret @dc82?
Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.

What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?
 

crisahan

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So what's your secret @dc82?
Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.

What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?

i normarlly have over 3hrs screen on time during my 1st week with 7a.

phone used time from 17~30 hrs depends on my usage. but generally i think the battery is very good.
 

crisahan

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and strangely enough, when i leave the phone idle (during my sleep) , it seems to drain faster than when i use the phone during the day? anyone else have the same experience?
 

krabman

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Yes, the reports on poor standby are so ubiquitous that I'm pretty sure the rare few who are claiming otherwise don't know what they are talking about or are mistaken. It was mentioned in every single review that bothered to mention standby at all so you can figure you have a known issue(s) affecting all devices.
 

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    So what's your secret @dc82?
    Strange you have the OppoKinectService listed in your battery stats, I have all the gestures on and never see that.
    But I, and I think many others, aren't seeing anywhere near the screen battery time you're getting.

    What else have you configured/disabled? Which software version?

    i normarlly have over 3hrs screen on time during my 1st week with 7a.

    phone used time from 17~30 hrs depends on my usage. but generally i think the battery is very good.
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    Screenshot please :fingers-crossed:

    Shows a little over 6 hours. I didn't take another screen shot before reseting and recharging the phone but by end of it I was right at 7 hours.