Z ultra root or no root

Explorer2012 · Feb 23, 2014

I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful

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Feodorus 4PDA · Feb 23, 2014

Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful

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First it depends on your desire. And how to receive root read the guide, the first post in this subject.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2569904

LordManhattan · Feb 23, 2014

Why do you want/need root?

If you can answer that question; go for it.

x5starguerillaa · Feb 23, 2014

I totally understand the need for root fot a lot of users.......that being said this is the first and only phone ive had in 5 years that I have not felt the need to root/unlock bootloader................................. YET!

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hamdogg · Feb 24, 2014

Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful

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We can't offer advice. If you need access to the root directory for any reason then you will need to...
If not then obviously leave it as is.

LordManhattan · Feb 24, 2014

All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.

samsmalls · Feb 24, 2014

LordManhattan said:
All i can really say is; If you have to ask, you don't need it.

Yep, because if one needs root, the question is... "What's the most recent / best method?"

My advise, don't worry about root until you need root access. I was doing fine without it until Sony decided to screw up sound enhancements on its latest software update. If you aren't on .136, my advice wait till kit Kat to make a decision on updating/rooting!:good:

TheFixerAK · Feb 24, 2014

Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.

I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.

To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.

This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.

Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.

As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.

-TheFixer

blueether · Feb 24, 2014

TheFixerAK said:
Just to chime in here, I have a desire for root, but I'm still stock/no-root.

I know folks might disagree with me, but after reading pages and pages of howto's, etc. I've determined there is no way to backup your stock phone (TA partition/DRM keys) etc with any of the current methods.

To root you must unlock your boot loader, when you unlock your bootloader, your TA partition and DRM keys are gone.

This means you have voided your warranty and can never restore to a truly stock phone.

Yeah Yeah Yeah, I know you can revert all the way back to version 532, root the phone and then backup your TA, etc. This is a WHOLE lot of steps that if you aren't careful can leave you with a $700 brick. If your nervous at all about these multi-step processes, than just leave your phone alone.

As many have said, I really haven't even thought about a custom ROM for this phone. The ONLY thing I miss is being able to do a nandroid backup, as it's such a pain to rebuild my phone if something goes wonky.

-TheFixer

Wimp

I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.

The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136

Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)

hansip87 · Feb 24, 2014

Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful

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My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore

not to root because:
1. It has unremovable battery, so i don't want to have it died faster with all that plug/unplug ordeal
2. i got all the service that was offered at the time of purchase, i just want to enjoy it as long as i can
3. The stock ROM is enough for me
4. Helium/Carbon Backup is there to substitute TiBu

So each of the way is good in for some reason. For me the the urge to mod is dead if you are not rooted (obvious) but there are a lot of other ways to do a modding, for instance, do your own program might be a better approach to fill on your own needs. There are more than one ways to Rome anyway

macexplorer · Feb 25, 2014

hansip87 said:
My reasoning:
to root because:
1. I can mod the system app as i like too (camera, quick toggle, xposed, etc)
2. I can do easier and real backup with Titanium Backup
3. I can find alternative ROM when the stock ROM is not there anymore

Good one!!

rooting the latest is a pain. But i didnt start using my phone, till i had safely rooted it.

hailmary · Feb 25, 2014

This is the only phone i havent rooted yet sincee the eclair era...no need.already powerful.smooth fast clear.nothing left to tweak n screw for me.best one yet.

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Lightbird · Feb 26, 2014

i dont root till Sony didnt released the last Firmware. If that gives me the Power to move Apps to SD the phone stays unrooted. If not i go for root, because of the size of my apps and because of the option Titanium Backup gives me

stevefwt · Feb 26, 2014

This is the only Android phone I have kept the stock ROM. I rooted it a couple of times but kept going back to the stable stock rom. The phone is naturally fast and smooth and has good memory and battery management as standard.

Need something else? then root.

Explorer2012 said:
I just bought z ultra
Kindly advice should I root it or not, I have read couple of feedback that its stock is already powerful

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stopa10 · Feb 26, 2014

I think the main reason to root these days is to use Xposed. Sony stock roms+Xposed make a wonderful combination of features and stability.

Just to give an example, with Xposed you can have the features of (what used to be) Paranoid Android on a Sony stock rom.

This said, it is true that rooting .290/.136 firmwares may be a pain in the ass, but anyone that follows instructions carefully should be able to do it safely.

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TheFixerAK · Feb 27, 2014

blueether said:
Wimp

I, and many of the other power users/posters (hamdogg, LordManhatton, [NUT], krabappel, DoomLord), have gone back and forth many times and have tested all of the steps. There were lots of Z1 (and a few ZU) bricks, mostly by flashing .290 without bootboundle.

The steps are simple, and you dont even need to unlock the BL to have root on .290/136

Flash [NUT]'s .532
Root w1th Bin4ry's tool
Backup TA
Unlock BL
Upgrade to latest FTF (or if on locked BL follow the steps for .290 and then .136)

Wimp I am when it comes to my primary work device

I have lots of other older devices that I've hacked the crap out of (I can't count how many ROM's I've put on my GT7.7) and my Dell Streak wasn't even useful until I put a custom ROM it.

None of what you described above is something that I haven't done with other devices (But never with my current everyday primary device). That being said, My original statement still stands - there is no SIMPLE way to ROOT your phone and keep/backup the original config/partitions. My last 3 devices, I downloaded an App, clicked the button and whammo, Root.

Until I absolutely need it, I'll just stick with Stock/No-Root (That is of course unless someone creates a Whammo solution).

Explorer2012 · Mar 1, 2014

Thank you all for your response.
I have decidedto stick to the stock ROM for time being.

Once again I truly appreciate your response

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