Do you think we will still get the magazine ux?

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zeraworld

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After what happened with Google telling Samsung to change the magazine ux and stuff do you think we will still get the update cause I think they are going to change the ui again.

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blue13x

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Yes, but the next generation won't. Devices and updates are developed months and years ahead. So big changes will probably come in the next generation

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fyew-jit-tiv

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Samsung and Google recently sign a new 10yr deal and within that deal Samsung has agreed to cut but on its bloatwares and turn towards a more Google type user interface. Means we will see a cut back on touchwiz, chaton QUOTE: may but stop in favour of Google chat. Mag ui and may other of Samsung's features will lean towards Google. Look in the technology section of Flipboard and you will find a statement from Samsung which talks about what I have mentioned here.
 

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As I know, the South Korean Government forces mobile makers to reduce bloatware. I thought that Magazine UX is Samsungs backup plan: Create a user interface, which makes migration to other brands with more standard interfaces difficult, just like switching between platforms.
And, of course, apps on the Mag Ux launcher have to be aquired via the Samsung store and will be lost if u go Huawei or something.
 
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BarryH_GEG

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Google didn't "tell" Samsung to do anything (or vice versa). A cooperation agreement was reached that could range from something as simple as sharing their mutual patent portfolios during litigation to Google using Samsung innovations (like S Pen) on h/w they may develop. Samsung's biggest threat to Google/Android isn't TW and M-UX, it's Tizen. We have no idea what the practical implications of the agreement are and neither does the press OP is quoting. Whatever the deal is it isn't going to be implemented overnight (it's a 10 year deal) and certainly isn't going to affect 2014 devices and that includes the SGS5 which is 90-95% through its development cycle. Samsung's having margin problems because of the maturation of smartphones in Western markets. They aren't going to do anything knee jerk (kill TW and M-UX) that could further exacerbate their financial situation. And many agreements signed in good faith can unravel as each party's interpretation of what they just agreed to is tested as the agreement is implemented.
 
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Where do you guys get this "Clean" Android thing for Samsung??

The *only* official statement regarding the Samsung-Google deal is this:

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=33461

It's a patent licensing deal, the same deal that Samsung has with IBM and Nokia for years. It's a similar deal for which Samsung paid 650 million to make use of Ericsson patents.

The only source for this new speculation comes from a Re/code's article:

http://recode.net/2014/01/29/after-...will-dial-back-android-tweaks-homegrown-apps/

This is little more than speculation at this time without any proof at all. Do you think Samsung will suddenly change plans for its GS5 UI at this last minute and miss out on sales of millions of units? Why should they do so? What does Samsung gain by this? There is not a single advantage for Samsung by going 'stock-ish' apart for pleasing some irrelevant geeks.

If you think so much about rumours, you need to also think about the rumour reported recently that MS is paying 1 billion to Samsung to start pushing flagship devices with WP.
 
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BarryH_GEG

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You have to admit though with Google signing a deal with Samsung, then suddenly selling off Motorola to Lenovo that it all does sound connected.

Samsung and Google are both public companies that file their financial performance quarterly. When entering deals their only motive is to drive profits and revenue higher. Pure Google devices are attractive to enthusiasts (5% of the market) and, purely because of Google's subsidization, bargain hunters. Samsung's spent billions in R&D on s/w to differentiate their Android devices in the market. Their massive market share would point to that as a successful strategy. What's in it for Samsung to suddenly make "Pure Google" attractive? Going that way relegates them to a defacto h/w purveyor with Google in control of the user experience. Does that seem logical to you or a place Samsung wants to find itself?

As for Motorola, it was a stupid acquisition going in and analysts are relieved Google unwound a bad bet that was a consistent profit drain on Google's earnings. Whether or not it has anything to do with the Samsung/Google deal isn't know and the logic of unloading Motorola stands on its own just fine.
 
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    Google didn't "tell" Samsung to do anything (or vice versa). A cooperation agreement was reached that could range from something as simple as sharing their mutual patent portfolios during litigation to Google using Samsung innovations (like S Pen) on h/w they may develop. Samsung's biggest threat to Google/Android isn't TW and M-UX, it's Tizen. We have no idea what the practical implications of the agreement are and neither does the press OP is quoting. Whatever the deal is it isn't going to be implemented overnight (it's a 10 year deal) and certainly isn't going to affect 2014 devices and that includes the SGS5 which is 90-95% through its development cycle. Samsung's having margin problems because of the maturation of smartphones in Western markets. They aren't going to do anything knee jerk (kill TW and M-UX) that could further exacerbate their financial situation. And many agreements signed in good faith can unravel as each party's interpretation of what they just agreed to is tested as the agreement is implemented.
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    Where do you guys get this "Clean" Android thing for Samsung??

    The *only* official statement regarding the Samsung-Google deal is this:

    http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=33461

    It's a patent licensing deal, the same deal that Samsung has with IBM and Nokia for years. It's a similar deal for which Samsung paid 650 million to make use of Ericsson patents.

    The only source for this new speculation comes from a Re/code's article:

    http://recode.net/2014/01/29/after-...will-dial-back-android-tweaks-homegrown-apps/

    This is little more than speculation at this time without any proof at all. Do you think Samsung will suddenly change plans for its GS5 UI at this last minute and miss out on sales of millions of units? Why should they do so? What does Samsung gain by this? There is not a single advantage for Samsung by going 'stock-ish' apart for pleasing some irrelevant geeks.

    If you think so much about rumours, you need to also think about the rumour reported recently that MS is paying 1 billion to Samsung to start pushing flagship devices with WP.
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    You have to admit though with Google signing a deal with Samsung, then suddenly selling off Motorola to Lenovo that it all does sound connected.

    Samsung and Google are both public companies that file their financial performance quarterly. When entering deals their only motive is to drive profits and revenue higher. Pure Google devices are attractive to enthusiasts (5% of the market) and, purely because of Google's subsidization, bargain hunters. Samsung's spent billions in R&D on s/w to differentiate their Android devices in the market. Their massive market share would point to that as a successful strategy. What's in it for Samsung to suddenly make "Pure Google" attractive? Going that way relegates them to a defacto h/w purveyor with Google in control of the user experience. Does that seem logical to you or a place Samsung wants to find itself?

    As for Motorola, it was a stupid acquisition going in and analysts are relieved Google unwound a bad bet that was a consistent profit drain on Google's earnings. Whether or not it has anything to do with the Samsung/Google deal isn't know and the logic of unloading Motorola stands on its own just fine.