Should I update to KK?

Naturesretard · Apr 28, 2014

I'm currently on 4.3 stock rooted 0x0 flag. I'm curious about KK but heard about a HUGE flaw with apps not able to write to external sd card...Therefore rendering them practically useless.

I'm assuming I shouldn't update ota and instead flash. But what will I need? And has the sd card issue been fixed?

I'm just looking for something more stable and a little slicker. Would like to stay tw or stock/ stock debloated.

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chipworkz · Apr 28, 2014

Since you haven't pulled the trigger yet, like me, I would hold off a little longer and wait to see what 4.4.3 brings us. It is just rumored right now but it is supposed to be a bug fix release. From what I have gathered, you really aren't missing anything big by not being on KitKat. I have had the itch to go ahead an upgrade too but I am going to wait to see when 4.4.3 is likely to hit us first.

eudemonics · Apr 28, 2014

in my humble opinion....

NO!!!!!!!!

Naturesretard · Apr 28, 2014

So if I get any urges to want to change things up I should stay on 4.3?

I'm still debating breaking knox or not. I never plan to use knox and haven't decided if I plan to trade this in for jump or not. I'm loving the battery life and have no gripes but minor hiccups.

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krelvinaz · Apr 28, 2014

Naturesretard said:
I'm curious about KK but heard about a HUGE flaw with apps not able to write to external sd card...Therefore rendering them practically useless.

If you root KK, there is an SD fix. Otherwise don't.

Naturesretard · Apr 28, 2014

krelvinaz said:
If you root KK, there is an SD fix. Otherwise don't.

Why are people telling me not to then? I thought the sd issue was the only issue with KK

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krelvinaz · Apr 28, 2014

A lot of people are having problems with KK. If they have rooted, the SDcard issue is not one of them since there is a fix for it. if you don' t have root, then it is a problem with no fix.

I'm one of the minority. Rooted Stock 4.42 with no real issues. Battery is fine, SDcard is fine, WiFi is good etc...

Naturesretard · Apr 28, 2014

Oh so those got it pre installed have issues but those who flash while rooted are fine.

Would you say you notice any stability or noteworthy features over 4.3?

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mike102871 · Apr 28, 2014

Yes. Absolutely no problems on stock rooted KK. Flash wicked and its even better.

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krelvinaz · Apr 28, 2014

Naturesretard said:
Oh so those got it pre installed have issues but those who flash while rooted are fine.

Would you say you notice any stability or noteworthy features over 4.3?

I didn't say that.

I was rooted before on 4.43 however, keeping root was not an option when I did the update. I used Odin to flash 4.42 and re-rooted (triggered Knox), loaded the sdcard fix and loaded TWRP in the process.

I was not having any issues on 4.43 though. KK got me better battery usage and access to new software.

If you are rooted, you can apply the sdcard fix. If you are not rooted, I don't think there it's a fix for that.

CravingMender9 · Apr 28, 2014

krelvinaz said:
I didn't say that.

I was rooted before on 4.43 however, keeping root was not an option when I did the update. I used Odin to flash 4.42 and re-rooted (triggered Knox), loaded the sdcard fix and loaded TWRP in the process.

I was not having any issues on 4.43 though. KK got me better battery usage and access to new software.

If you are rooted, you can apply the sdcard fix. If you are not rooted, I don't think there it's a fix for that.

Since you are still on 4.3, you can easily root using Kingo or de la vega method without triggering knox.
After that, upgrading to 4.4.2 is very easy and you still have root and warranty.

If you don't care about knox, then you can just update and use Chainfire to root 4.4.2 (knox warranty void). It is pretty simple.
I have 4.4.2, root (from my previous rooted 4.3) and warranty intact + SD fix and xposed mods. The phone is just amazing now.

chuko303 · Apr 28, 2014

Thats Like Saying Should I Buy These New BOSS rims for my car HAVING the money.

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Liquorsicc92 · Apr 29, 2014

The only issues I've heard due to the kitkat update are terrible battery life and the SD card issue. There's a flashable zip to fix the SD card issue and I believe installing the Foldermount app does some kind of fix. The battery life issue seems to be fixed after a simple factory reset, however, you'd have to root the device like others have stated. My phone runs great on KK. I'm getting awesome battery life and I have not experienced any problems whatsoever.

Frank Westlake · Apr 29, 2014

You can get improved battery life on 4.3 by removing bloat, and there's no need to apply a fix so you can use the sdcard normally. Is there any real improvement in 4.4.2?

Frank

chuko303 · Apr 29, 2014

After a week of hearing about the problems I just went ahead and upgraded why? Who doesn't like to have the newest? Plus there are fixes if your rooted. If not well maybe you are screwed but who wouldn't want to root? Been doing it since OG evo 4G

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Neva Eva Forget 1984 · Apr 29, 2014

Does anyone have any issues recording video with KK? I updated the just the modem (running Slimkat) and can't record videos or sometimes can't play youtube videos in HD. It's not a rom issues. Might go to stock KK and than try reinstalling everything.

Naturesretard · Apr 29, 2014

chuko303 said:
After a week of hearing about the problems I just went ahead and upgraded why? Who doesn't like to have the newest? Plus there are fixes if your rooted. If not well maybe you are screwed but who wouldn't want to root? Been doing it since OG evo 4G

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Funny, me too. I still have my og Evo 4g. Have you noticed any difference in battery life compared to 4.3? I have root and knox In-tact and apparently it's easy to upgrade...but I don't want worse battery life.

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chuko303 · Apr 29, 2014

You won't have worse battery life bud. I'm pretty sure that will be rom and kernel related. Theirs like 4 to 5 kit Kat toms out their now. All good. All different, over in the international forum the rom that made me go to kitkat was XNOTE v11. Was a great rom but build international of course, hyperdrive is great one too good battery life I can't complain. Lean kernel will save the most battery

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Naturesretard · Apr 29, 2014

Alright I'll have to do some digging and find a flash able rom...and finish my root by breaking knox finally and flashing a recovery.

As easy as it makes things, I'm worried to break knox. Not because of warranty. Lol I know tmo doesn't give 2 ****s about root...

My concern is when I want to sell the device, maybe retaining knox flag will help increase the price point.

This phone is a powerhouse. Easily able to last for the next few years until EoD. Throw In the obvious office features and a still working knox (albeit being able to be reset at samsung warehouses (I'd cite the info but I'm not in front of my desktop)) who wouldn't want this phone for work?

Thoughts?

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xEVILFREDx · Apr 29, 2014

mike102871 said:
Yes. Absolutely no problems on stock rooted KK. Flash wicked and its even better.

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I did the same but I am having issues with my network sticking on the new baseband. Do you have any issues Mike ? I feel like my phone goes to 4G / 3G more then what it did before. LTE was working before I jump to KK. Also when I got phone calls before, my network would go from LTE to 4g on calls. Now it goes to 3G. What is going on ????

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