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elesbb

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You have measurements on the first post? I'm talking about like measuring the thickness using a caliper or similar device, then measuring the receiver to compare size differences. I wouldn't mind having wireless charging but with the bulge it scares me. Also, if i get the OEM back cover, would it even fit in my OtterBox preserver case?
 

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You have measurements on the first post? I'm talking about like measuring the thickness using a caliper or similar device, then measuring the receiver to compare size differences. I wouldn't mind having wireless charging but with the bulge it scares me. Also, if i get the OEM back cover, would it even fit in my OtterBox preserver case?

with some of the receivers listed, the bulge is minimum, you don't really notice it, and even with either of the recievers any case will fit, its not the end of the world with the bulge:fingers-crossed:, an d the bulge will be in different lacations depending which reciever you use, as for the oem wireless cover, there is another thread on that explains in much more details.
 
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with some of the receivers listed, the bulge is minimum, you don't really notice it, and even with either of the recievers any case will fit, its not the end of the world with the bulge:fingers-crossed:, an d the bulge will be in different lacations depending which reciever you use, as for the oem wireless cover, there is another thread on that explains in much more details.

Thank you very much :)

In terms of the bulge, does it break the waterproof seal? That's mainly what i'm worried about. Even though im getting an OtterBox Preserver case. I still want the device itself to remain waterproof.
 

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Thank you very much :)

In terms of the bulge, does it break the waterproof seal? That's mainly what i'm worried about. Even though im getting an OtterBox Preserver case. I still want the device itself to remain waterproof.

Like myself, not many people is willing to test this out.
 

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Major props for OP for dipping in to help the community.

I don't want to risk waterproofing so i just went with the OEM charge cover and used the 50% off accessories coupon given upon registering the phone.
 
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Anyone else tried the Nillkin + Nokia dt 900 combo? Been charging and disconnecting for me.
 

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Thanks for the reviews KMS108. On an average how long does it take to fully charge wirelessly? And whats the best charger you would recommend.

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Thanks for the reviews KMS108. On an average how long does it take to fully charge wirelessly? And whats the best charger you would recommend.

Thanks

should be about 3-4 hours from 0%, about the chargers, it's hard to recommend one, I have about 12 different ones, and I like them all, my newest one us the araree or named in other market as powerholic, it charges my phone very cool, photo is posted further up this page.

There are many others, but there is no point in recommending them as it's not available for purchase to everyone.
 

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should be about 3-4 hours from 0%, about the chargers, it's hard to recommend one, I have about 12 different ones, and I like them all, my newest one us the araree or named in other market as powerholic, it charges my phone very cool, photo is posted further up this page.

There are many others, but there is no point in recommending them as it's not available for purchase to everyone.

I think it will be nice if we can have a list of reciever-charger combo that works with each other. I just purchased the pwrcard, not thebslim version, and will try it again with my nokia pads. Will be purchasing the empower one as well probably in the next few days.
 

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I bought number 5 on the list, and its giving off an insane amount of heat, you can't even hold the phone during a charge.

I wish i saw this guide before I ordered it, I never had issues with flexi coil before, I am looking to order number 6 on the list as a replacement.
 

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Alright, got my PWRcard (non-slim) and used my Nokia dt900 and dt 910. It works well with the charging pads, but it does add a bulge. You have to get the phone positioned perfectly to get it charged continously. However, so far, my fone did not heat up quite much. I still need to use a battery monitor though. I tried it on both pads, and thr dt 910 one is actually quite perfect. I'm thinking about making a stand for the dt900. I'll keep using this setup and will report back in the next few weeks for updates.
 

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I think it will be nice if we can have a list of reciever-charger combo that works with each other. I just purchased the pwrcard, not thebslim version, and will try it again with my nokia pads. Will be purchasing the empower one as well probably in the next few days.

Thats not really possible, there is over 60-70 chargers and approximate 20 receivers available on the market, and i'm sure no one has them all, I myself have tested about 25 of the chargers myself, and have no intention to purchase all the chargers.

I will be updating the first post in the next few days when I receive a new dual format wireless receiver, the receiver support both QI and PMA (powermat), useful for those living in the US where starbucks has support for wireless charging.
 

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I use the last one " Unknown" charges without any problem, not that much heat even after a full night on charger. Cover closes perfectly, integrity of IP67 is kept, IMHO. Bought off Ebay with Qi charger ( 12.95$ ), no trouble finding charge position.

Have not received my s5 yet but have been using wireless receivers on my s3 and then s4. Currently purchased what looks like a induction type labeled "energy" for the s5 and am looking at comparing its results with a copper coil type when my s5 arrives in a few weeks. Where did you find the copper coil type "unknown"? Link? I can't seem it find it. I'm using an induction type with magnetic shield on by s4 and it works fine and has a for some time. I'm concerned the lack of a magnetic shield may meet the sealing issue but may run a tad hot. Eager to find "unknown" to run meaningful comparisons between heat vs thinness. A link for purchase would be helpful. Don't need a charger but maybe the receiver is available separately, in any case, it's a cheap package. TIA
 

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Have not received my s5 yet but have been using wireless receivers on my s3 and then s4. Currently purchased what looks like a induction type labeled "energy" for the s5 and am looking at comparing its results with a copper coil type when my s5 arrives in a few weeks. Where did you find the copper coil type "unknown"? Link? I can't seem it find it. I'm using an induction type with magnetic shield on by s4 and it works fine and has a for some time. I'm concerned the lack of a magnetic shield may meet the sealing issue but may run a tad hot. Eager to find "unknown" to run meaningful comparisons between heat vs thinness. A link for purchase would be helpful. Don't need a charger but maybe the receiver is available separately, in any case, it's a cheap package. TIA

It seems like you are getting mixed up, no matter which one you choose, they are all induction type charging, and all receivers has the magnetic shield, this is required by the inductive charging, the one you have is identical to the 5th one in the first post which contains a flexi coil and flexi magnetic shield, and yes this one does has a heat build up.
 

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    If the mods think this shouldn't have a individual thread, please combine this with the existing thread.

    Before I go into details about each receiver, I would like to point out that all third party receiver does produce a slight bulge, whether is does bulge alot or little it's there, the bulge is usually the location of the chipset/IC on the receiver.
    If you require a receiver without the bulge go for the samsung OEM cover.

    To reduce the thickness and bulge, users can cut or file down certain part of the inside of the cover, you can see the photo below, this part also prevent most of the receiver from positioning direct in the center of the phone, so the receiver is mostly placed toward one side and on the battery.

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    Of the 8 receiver, one of the receiver is a pre production model and is not available for purchase as of write, for other receiver please do a search, I will not provide any links.

    If you have any questions please feel free to ask, but before asking, most of the answers will probably be answered already in this thread, so please search within this thread first, question that has been answered before in the thread will be ignored.

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    Brand: Nillkin
    Coil Type: PCB copper etched
    Chipset/IC: TI
    Support QI/NFC

    The receiver is specially cut so that it fits inside the battery cover and overcome any parts that sticks out of the cover.
    The receiver is made very thin and has very little bulge.
    Nillkins claims that this receiver retains the IP67 specification.
    Will work with most transmitters, with transmitter that has only one coil and is more sensitive you will have a hard time getting it to charge properly, I couldn't even get this receiver to charge with samsung's new square charger, with the rectangular one, you have to place the phone alittle higher for it to charge.
    With a charger that has 3 coils, 7 coils or a moving coil, this receiver works very well.

    Updated: Does not work with the following charger, Iffu, new version of the samsung, Nokia, Araree and Powerholic.
    May apply to others.

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    Brand: Powerqi
    Coil Type: copper strand coil
    Chipset/IC: TI
    Support QI/NFC

    Only just been release about 2 week ago, ultra thin and produce little bulge to the cover, works well with many chargers.

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    Brand: Powerqi
    Coil Type: Flexi coil
    Chipset/IC: TI
    Support QI/NFC

    During my testing the receiver works very well, the phone needs to placed a little bit down, as the coils is located further down, it is also claimed and been tested to work with the IP67 specification.
    The receiver is ultra thin, and from all of the receiver listed here and one's that I have used, this is the thinnest one to date.



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    Brand: Yijieneng
    Coil Type: Flexi coil
    Chipset/IC: TI
    Support QI/NFC


    One of the most known companies in wireless charging, I have recommended this brand for a good few years, they have produced many good products, but this receiver is a fail, it's the thickest receiver in the test, it's also very difficult to place into the phone, it took me many time to get the receiver to work with the stock cover, and only manage to get the cover to close properly, I have tested this with a S view cover, it's fits into the cover very tight, but cannot get the two to work, even when it's suppose to work. This is one of the 2 receiver listed here that suppose to works with a S View cover.
    Once you get this receiver to work, there is no problem with this and any other transmitter.


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    Brand: itian/Energy
    Coil Type: Flexi coil
    Chipset/IC: Unknown
    Support QI/NFC

    The first receiver on the market for the S5, work well, very thin but does produce alot of heat.

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    Brand: Unknown
    Coil Type: Copper strand coil
    Chipset/IC: TI
    Support QI/NFC

    This is the second receiver listed here that can be used with S View cover, this receiver is very similar to the Yijieneng, but it's completely different, and is not made by Yijieneng, it's ultra thin, and works well with all charger that I have used.

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    Brand: Unknown
    Coil Type: Flexi coil
    Chipset/IC: Unknown
    Support QI/NFC

    The smallest receiver made for the S5, and does not affect NFC

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    Brand: Unknown
    Coil Type: Copper strand coil
    Chipset/IC: Unknown
    Support QI/NFC

    initial test seems alright, quite thin, even when the cover is on, with minimum bulge, not too fussy about what charger is used.

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    Brand: Yijieneng
    Coil Type: Copper strand coil
    Chipset/IC: TI
    Support QI/PMA/NFC


    1st third party receiver to support both QI standard (WPC) and PMA (Duracell Powrmat), this receiver also supports the use of the S view cover for wake up and sleep function, anyone after a ultra thin receiver can look elsewhere, this receiver is not thin.
    Further testing needs to done to confirm the compactiblity of both standard, although initial testing QI has been tested to work.
    A must have receiver if you live in the USA where PMA charging is available in all starbucks cafe and some other cafe, and if qi is used as the main charging standard for you smartphone.
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    Thanks for the detailed info on receiver.
    Can you please let me know what the difference between different coil types?
    Which once is better? with respect to thickness, charging speed, heat generation, placement on Qi charger etc.

    Thanks.

    There isn't a better one, they all have their pro's and con's.

    Theoretical flexi coil is consider to be the thinnest one which it is, but it all depend on the manufacture when they decide to use the magnetic shield, also know as flexi magnet that inductive charging is required, which can be very thin or thick, this will decide on the factor on the thickness.
    being thin mean it will fit under the phones OEM cover with minimum bulge, but the disadvantage is, flexi coil produces more heat than the other two as it's not as efficient and has more energy loss.

    copper strand coil, is the traditional coil with a ferite magnet (mix of stone and metal), and easily get's cracked, but has the less heat as it's much more efficient, but being much thicker, some manufacture has started to use flexi magnet to reduce the thickness.

    PCB copper etched in between both, but cost much more to produce, so many manufacture does not use this method, upto now for what I know, nillkin and sandisk is the only manufacture to use this, nillkin being approximate twice the price of many of the available receiver in the market, and sandisk, being 5 times the price.

    with all this being said, receiver listed here using the copper coils, are actually the thinner ones see the 2nd and 6th receiver.

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    Aerb Qi Enable Wireless Charging Receiver + Pad

    I purchased both the Aerb charging pad and charging receiver. This is my first wireless charging pad/receiver purchase, so I cannot compare to other brands. Below are my observations and experiences:

    The charging pad: the surface is hard plastic and a little bit slippery. One side of the charging cable is regular USB but the other side isn't microUSB (it's the round shape), so you have to stick with their cable.

    The charging receiver: it fits the phone but very tight to close the phone's back cover. Sorry I don't dare to test the ability of water proof.

    The charging current detect on my phone is about the same as the advertised. It's average 670 mAh.

    The phone gets hot while charging. The CPU is constantly at 49 Celsius degree and the battery is around 40 Celsius degree. My room temperature is 24 Celsius (75 Fahrenheit degree).

    Finally, the warranty isn't stated on the product page but the email follow-up received by River-Tech states they have ONLY 45 days warranty. So I decided to return both of them because I am not confident about them and the phone gets uncomfortably hot during charging.


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    I got the Nillkin + the Nillkin Energy Stone charger, and so far it's working fine. It does appear to generate a little heat, but not any more than charging with the cable does in my car. The Nillkin does make the back case bulge a bit, and it's noticible in my Spigen Tough Armor case (it doesn't sit flush anymore on it's back, even though it's got the small raised feet on the corners). I also don't hold much hope that it's still water tight, as the left side does appear to come pretty close to the edge, and is quite thick at that point (no micrometer here so can't tell you my measurements). I didn't have any problems with it charging on the stone, and moved it around several times to make sure it kept connection. It's been charging for about 30 minutes or so, with no disconnects either.

    It'll work for now, until I can get one of the super thin ones that appear to be coming out. I wasn't expecting the slight bulge to make my Spigen case sit funny, I could probably get use to it, but it's going to definitely cause a wear-spot over the IC in the Nillkin receiver, I have no doubt there.

    Bought mine here.

    Any way to disable the sound of the 100% charge, then the reconnect to charge at 99%? I've disabled all the charging stuff in wanum/xposed, but still get the tone that you get when plugging in the device to charge (just like plugging in a USB cable), when you hit 100%, then it stops charging and restarts..
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    Hi,

    I ordered Yijieneng receiver a while back. I am yet to receive it.
    I saw your review later and immediately knew that was a wrong decision.

    I was then inclined to order the Nillkin. Especially because they said the coil is printed on the bottom half to keep it away from the copper plate on the outer case and reduce heat.

    I have picked up Nokia DT900 and DT910 recently from ATT. Your updated review says Nillkin doesn't work with Nokia. Did you test with both DT900 and DT910?

    How about Powerqi. Does both powerqi ones work with DT900 and DT910?

    I am not planning to order one immediately. Would it be wise to wait for the pre-production powerqi? Is there a difference in heat generated between 2 powerqi models?

    The information about the Nillkin and Nokia dt900 and dt910 is probably from my post. I have both Nokia and the Nillkin. It works, but the charging cycles on and off. It wont even reach a minute and it would start the cycle. Afer that dissapointing afternoon, I bought the PWRcard non-slim version from Amazon. Two days later, I finally can charge wirelessly.