State of Development on R800x (ROM and Kernel List)

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Mills00013

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There's also this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1130639 which can be done without flashing (I think).

crono, you're exactly right. couldn't find the link a minute ago but thats definitely it and should get you there in a pinch without flashing...

Do note, mathias, though, that the boot partition (so your kernel and whatnot) wont get included in the nandroid backup like it does on most devices. this wont be a problem normally, but it could be important to try and remember which kernel you were using when you made X backup. fortunately you can always rename the files so that might be the way to go.
 

crono141

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Mathias, xperias dont have a set aside recovery partition like most devices. The CWM recovery that you see people talking about is actually imbedded in a ramdisk in the kernel itself! Its a very cool trick that gets the job done very well, but it does require a custom kernel to have it. as far as i know, there are no custom kernels that work just right for our cdma devices just yet but there will be soon. if you want to nandroid, temporarily you can reflash dooms kernel and do the backup then reflash to kernel.sin. you can also use fastboot to boot the recovery from your computer (no flashing required) but it requires you to have to be connected to your computer when you want to restore or backup.

Would it be theoretically possible, through the use of much kode-fu, to repartition the internal nand and boot firmware to get a dedicated recovery partition?
 

Mills00013

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I want to say thats what the FreeXperia team originally set out to do but I dont know if there was any progress made. I dont know the details but I would imagine that repartitioning nand is probably not a walk in the park...
 

gwaine

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Quick update: For any other noobs like myself...I extracted the ftf file on the first page of the thread using winrar, flashed the kernel.sin, rebooted. Still stuck on Sony Ericsson screen. Back to fastboot, flashed the system.sin and it worked! If that's painfully obvious that you have to do that then I at least hope it helps some other Android dummies like myself. I probably messed something up along the way when I was trying to flash the whole ftf file through fastboot (I'm not even sure that those files are compatible with fastboot but I tried it anyway last night).
 

Mills00013

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Quick update: For any other noobs like myself...I extracted the ftf file on the first page of the thread using winrar, flashed the kernel.sin, rebooted. Still stuck on Sony Ericsson screen. Back to fastboot, flashed the system.sin and it worked! If that's painfully obvious that you have to do that then I at least hope it helps some other Android dummies like myself. I probably messed something up along the way when I was trying to flash the whole ftf file through fastboot (I'm not even sure that those files are compatible with fastboot but I tried it anyway last night).

Linked to this post in the initial post. Thanks for hanging in there and helping out!
 

ashergray

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you listed this as
Stock Kernel
Link: Multiupload
Status: Should work just fine. This is just the .sin. Use this command: fastboot flash system system.sin
it should be Stock system
also here are a list of the MD5 Checksums as I have them on my computer
Code:
R800xkernel.zip
1a2e9a665fee7332867157c11aa321c9

System.sin
3ebf12d10c195b92ff72c41d325592de

Kernel.sin
7ba1e6e3b698ad55f6bea0406196d337

Stock kernel and system.ftf
d519365f7220382a42fdecd554aa4b64

Full Stock Minus TA. FTF
465d52867582a4d1eee8166807bb97ac
 

Mills00013

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Added and fixed. Thanks for the heads up.

Man that first post is starting to get big lol. Maybe I should have reserved some comments below it.
 

gwaine

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Hey Mills...I'm almost positive that easier method you added at the top of the first post works. I wasn't sure I was rooted because it wouldn't let me "su" from ADB shell, but I think I just didn't give the program permission. Since thinking that didn't work, I used your older method and it worked like a charm (now that I know to flash the system.sin too). Doom's, then the original. I googled how to tell if you're rooted and the link had me download a terminal emulator from which I was able to switch to superuser. So your older method definitely works, but I was getting the same symptoms in ADB with the older method so I'm pretty sure your new method works too....just not 100%. It's quick enough that other folks should probably try the newer method first. That restore mode that the phone boots into so that you can flash a zip is awesome! Thanks again for all of your help and for all of the info on the thread.
 

Mills00013

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gwaine, in the old instructions, where would you put the system.sin flash step in? What number would it go before or after. I want to add it in because it wont really hurt to have people do it and could take out some of the questionable variables.
 

ashergray

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Quick update: For any other noobs like myself...I extracted the ftf file on the first page of the thread using winrar, flashed the kernel.sin, rebooted. Still stuck on Sony Ericsson screen. Back to fastboot, flashed the system.sin and it worked! If that's painfully obvious that you have to do that then I at least hope it helps some other Android dummies like myself. I probably messed something up along the way when I was trying to flash the whole ftf file through fastboot (I'm not even sure that those files are compatible with fastboot but I tried it anyway last night).


I can verify that this resolves the bootloop.

not really sure what happened but flashtool knocked me into a boot loop and this fix resolved it.
 
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hatcyl

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Easy Way worked for me.

So I have stock + unlocked bootloader + root ... perfect!
 

gwaine

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gwaine, in the old instructions, where would you put the system.sin flash step in? What number would it go before or after. I want to add it in because it wont really hurt to have people do it and could take out some of the questionable variables.

Hey Mills...after step 17 in the beginner's instructions I flashed system.sin. I couldn't find the post, but Blagus posted that flashing the system.sin is a bit different: fastboot system system.sin instead of fastboot boot kernel.sin. Again, probably obvious, but it was good to know. After flashing the system.sin I rebooted again and it worked. This might all be unnecessary, because I'm starting to think I messed stuff up by flashing the ftf file in fastboot (dunno if that file's compatible with fastboot). I got both the kernel.sin and the system.sin by extracting them from the ftf on the first page using winrar.
 
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I followed the easy instructions and had a pretty easy time of it.

I'm using the stock ROM and kernel (the kernel being switched back from Doom's to use recovery) with root, and I removed various applications with Titanium. I removed the annoyed, "Get Games" app that ran in the background all the time (which actually removed the "More Games" tab from the Xperia Play app, which I left in. That amused me greatly, I wasn't aware More Games was a dependent process).

Once nightlies for Cyanogen hit, I'll be all over that like white on rice. Or brown on rice. Depends on what kind of rice you find yourself to be most acclimated to.

Seriously, you did some great work, and I really appreciate it. ^_^
 

oc3rulz

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got mine all fixed. I was running on so little sleep for a couple days, work has been sucking. I was typing "fastboot flash kernel kernel.sin", instead of "fastboot flash boot kernel.sin", phone is rooted and working great!!
 

NeoandGeo

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I just had to reflash the stock system.ftf file, and reacquire root. I had originally deleted all the potentially safe to remove apps, but noticed shortly after that all of my games and emulators would experience extremely bad lag that would last for several seconds or more, then return to normal 60fps gameplay. This rendered it all unplayable for me. With only removing the stock games I am back to normal lag free gameplay.

I wonder what was causing that?
 

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    Because what the world needs now is another R800x related thread.

    I'm going to try to document all of the kernels and ROMs posted currently about the forum and exactly what they will or will not do when used in their current state on the R800x. This thread will be for developers to help figure out issues related to the CDMA differences and for end users trying to figure out what works or doesn't.

    Please post your experiences with testing different builds and kernels. Also, if applicable, post any software that you were able to remove with root and if you ran into any complications because of the removal.

    Note that this can also serve as a directory for GSM users as well. Just disregard the comments and do diligent research.

    If you are not using a custom kernel (and you're probably not at this point because of how poorly they are responding) then you will need to run this command to make your system read/writable so that you can remove apps:
    Code:
    mount -o rw,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock0 /system

    If you have not already done so, download Omnius! Backup your TA file. This can save a lot of headaches in the long run for everyone!


    Root

    Basic Root Steps
    Link: R800x Root
    Status: Steps to follow if you have an unlocked bootloader....

    zergRush Root Method
    Link: [HOW-TO] Root R800x/i v2.3.3+ (zergRush Method)
    Status: Instructions for rooting without a unlocked bootloader. Works on stock 2.3.3.

    Bin4ry's Original Root
    Link: [How-to] Root your Play
    Status: No. Bin4ry's file contains the entire system for the GSM plays. This is an original rooted generic system build. Do not flash this.


    Kernels

    DooMLoRD's CDMA Kernel
    Link: [KERNEL][PLAY][CDMA] DooMKernel [Rel:v01][Dt:30/Nov][FW:3.0.1.A.0.145]
    Status: Currently in very active development, check the thread for most recent updates and information about whether this will work for you. Probably most recommended for stock ROM.

    Blagus' SEtweak Kernel
    Link: [Kernel] SEtweak - insecure ADB, ext4, NTFS, overclock, USB OTG - updated 24th July
    Status: Boots stock ROM. Unusably slow. Root shell in adb.

    DooMLoRD's GSM Kernel
    Link: [KERNEL][PLAY][GSM] DooMKernel [Rel:v08][Dt:17/Nov][FW:4.0.2.A.0.42]
    Status: Newest Doom revision will boot stock 2.3.3 system without wifi or camera. Version 3 of the kernel will allow you to use both of these items. Will also boot other systems with same results.

    FreeXperia's (jerpelea) Kernel
    Link: [DEVELOPMENT] - CM7.1.0 - FXP041 RELEASED - FreeXperia Project
    Status: It works like it should for the most part. Regressions in and out on camera, but overall stable. Used for CM7 only.


    Roms

    Stock ROM
    Link: Check stock section below for downloads
    Status: Boots and roots with everything available to use as it should be. See kernel info above for finer points to it. Stock ROM is easily rootable.

    FreeXperia's CyanogenMod 7.2.0 CDMA
    Link: {GSM/CDMA}[DEVELOPMENT] - CM7.2.0 - FXP049 RELEASED - FreeXperia Project
    Status: Newest builds work almost 100%. If you are having camera issues, check out this post and apply the linked update.zip. You should have a working system with everything except MMS. And even the MMS is hit or miss. So give it a try.

    ZeroROM
    Link: [ROM] zerorom v0.4 (GSM/CDMA, CWM Install)
    Status: Boots great using Doom's kernel, however, system is based on 4.0 series generic GSM roms and the radio doesnt function yet. Work in progress.

    UK ROM For R800x
    Link: [CDMA][ROM] R800x with UK firmware

    Status: Work in progress but good reports about it running great. Check out thread for most current information and build data.

    FrAsErTaG's FTS
    Link: [SYSTEM] FTS v05 ONLINE [FINAL] DooMLoRD Kernel Compatible
    Status: Seems there is lots of success with new patches and some minor tweaks starting about there in the thread. Well suited for using as a daily driver at this point with the tweaks. Easiest method is just flashing the awesome nandroid backup zero_1_2 made.


    Requests

    Kernels for 2.3.3


    Back to Stock

    Stock Kernel 2.3.2
    Link: Attatched to this post
    Status: Its the stock kernel. So of course it works just fine. Flash the same as you would any kernel: fastboot flash boot kernel.sin

    Stock System 2.3.2
    Link: Multiupload
    Status: Should work just fine. This is just the .sin. Use this command: fastboot flash system system.sin

    Stock System 2.3.3
    Link: DropBox
    Status: Untested system img. Use this command: fastboot flash system system.img

    Stock Kernel+System TFT 2.3.2
    Link: Multiupload
    Status: Should contain a tft file with the kernel and system. From what I understand this is not the complete restore?

    Full system FTF 2.3.2
    Link: Multiupload
    Status: Full system restore tft. This should bring you back to 100% stock (minus the bootloader being returned to locked)

    Full system FTF 2.3.3
    Link: Multiupload
    Status: Full system restore tft. This should bring you back to 100% stock (minus the bootloader being returned to locked)

    All Original System APKs
    Link: Multiupload

    MD5 Values for Stock Items
    This isn't an optional check. The following values must match up or you need to download the file again.
    Code:
    R800xkernel.zip (Attatched to the post)
    1a2e9a665fee7332867157c11aa321c9
    
    System.sin
    3ebf12d10c195b92ff72c41d325592de
    
    Kernel.sin (Should be inside attatched file to the post or inside full ftf)
    7ba1e6e3b698ad55f6bea0406196d337
    
    Stock kernel and system.ftf
    d519365f7220382a42fdecd554aa4b64
    
    Full Stock Minus TA. FTF
    465d52867582a4d1eee8166807bb97ac


    Potentially Safe to Remove Applications

    Users have personally removed and verified the following apps. Removing all of these will take every Verizon application out of your menu. And all of the games. Except for Crash. Because, honestly, who doesn't want to keep Crash.

    I remove all of these apps completely (cause I live on the edge like that and I dont mind flashing a system file) but you are also free to simply rename the package and put .old on the end of it or something similar. The point will be served to get them out of your menu, but it, of course, wont clear up any of the precious little space we have. It saddens me to have to say this but I think its wise to remind everyone: you are not required to remove all these applications. If you don't know what you are deleting, don't. If you still manage to screw this up, the apps are all linked in the stock section above.
    1. /system/app/starbattalion.apk
    2. /system/app/Asphalt.apk
    3. /system/app/madden.apk
    4. /system/app/Sims.apk
    5. /system/app/tetris.apk
    6. /system/app/com.skype.android.verizon.apk
    7. /system/app/com.fusionone.android.sync.sonyericssonr800xbaclient.apk
    8. /system/app/com.vzw.vvm.androidclient.apk
    9. /system/app/com.amazon.kindle.apk
    10. /system/app/com.vznavigator.r800x.apk
    11. /system/app/com.gravitymobile.vzwinstaller.apk
    12. /system/app/com.gravitymobile.app.hornbill.apk
    13. /system/app/Launcher2.apk
    14. /system/app/Camera.apk
    15. /system/app/com.vzw.hss.myverizon.apk ##This one has to be done last. If your phone is running, prepare for it to hate you. Reboot after its gone and you should be alright.

    There is a more comprehensive guide here but together by sonicfreak360. Check it out.

    Tips or Tricks

    Question: Cant boot or pass the Sony Ericsson logo? Can you still get into fastboot (power off and plug in USB with search button held)?
    Status: Check out the post made by gwaine later on in the thread
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    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/41176913/system.img

    stock R800X 2.3.3 System image install with Fastboot -i 0x0fce flash system system.img

    Stock kernel from this thread works, Doomlords 3.0 kernel works as well, but breaks wifi (Hard reset upon turning any wifi on)
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    I copied the update_package file from cache/recovery/fota. I don't know if anyone can do anything with it, but here it is.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35097081/update_package

    If anything else, if anyone has to go back to 2.3.2, you could push this file to cache/recovery/fota to save time instead of waiting for the download.

    EDIT: I just relocked my bootloader, and applied update. Everything went smooth, still have root, and was able to re-unlock bootloader.

    EDIT: Here is the mtd2 image file I extracted from /dev/mtd/mtd2 if anyone with Linux wants to compile a boot.img from it so we have the stock 2.3.3 kernel
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35097081/mtd2.img

    EDIT: And here is a Nandroid backup that gives you rooted stock 2.3.3 with all original system apps. I tested it by going back to 2.3.2 by wiping data, cache, system, flashing kernel.sin and system.sin from 2.3.2 in fastboot. Rebooting to verify stock w/o root, then fastbooted recoveryPLAY.img and applied this nandroid backup. This is a way to get 2.3.3 kernel and system without having to relock bootloader, receiving ota, and then re-unlock bootloader.
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35097081/R800x_2.3.3_stock_rooted.zip
    Note: This was made by me after locking bootloader, receiving and installing ota 2.3.3, unlocking bootloader, fastboot boot recoveryPLAY.img, nandroid
    backup.
    EDIT: This backup still results in wifi not working if still on 2.3.2 when using. :(
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    Have any 800x users found a way to use the latest official firmware (Ce,Generic) on there 800x? Im building a new rom and would like to have 800x support

    I have been working on it with no success so far, but have an idea that I will work on this weekend to see if it works.
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    Quick update: For any other noobs like myself...I extracted the ftf file on the first page of the thread using winrar, flashed the kernel.sin, rebooted. Still stuck on Sony Ericsson screen. Back to fastboot, flashed the system.sin and it worked! If that's painfully obvious that you have to do that then I at least hope it helps some other Android dummies like myself. I probably messed something up along the way when I was trying to flash the whole ftf file through fastboot (I'm not even sure that those files are compatible with fastboot but I tried it anyway last night).